Windows 10 1903

[hazelnut]

As this has gone live now I installed the required Cumulative through Win Updates released yesterday (KB4497934)

However as I still wasn't offered the new May Feature update through the normal update channel I just used the Update Assistant from here

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Note that that link also offers the iso for clean installs as well.

Everything is running fine after doing the 1903 upgrade on this machine.

[nukecad]

Interestingly the Update Assistant in the UK was still offering 1809 until just minutes ago. It's got 1903 now.
(Hazelnuts' link above is the US site).

They are releasing 1903 slowly, so it may be weeks or months before you are offered it on the normal release channel.

There are also still a few outstanding hardware/software issues that need to be resolved before it will be offered to some machines. eg.

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Intermittent loss of Wi-Fi connectivity
Some older computers may experience loss of Wi-Fi connectivity due to an outdated Qualcomm driver. An updated Wi-Fi driver should be available from your device manufacturer (OEM).

 

To safeguard your upgrade experience, we have applied a hold on devices with this Qualcomm driver from being offered Windows 10, version 1903, until the updated driver is installed.

 

You can find a list of all 12 of the known issues here:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-1903

If you install 1903 using the Update Assistant rather than waiting until it is offered then be aware that one or more of these issues may affect you.
Your choice whether to risk it or not, you know your own machine.

[hazelnut]

I have installed 1903 on 4 machines now,. 2 via the Update Assistant, and 2 via clean installs. I have had no issues at all.

Just about every Feature update of Win 10 has had issues with something. If I took notice of all those warnings I would never install anything !!!

[nukecad]

Just installing it now.

Had no problems apart from the slow wifi at home, (5-6 Mbps max), so I brought the laptop across to the pub (any excuse). Wifi 60+ Mbps, downloaded in no time. Now at 82% updating.

[nukecad]

Sorry for the delay, I got stuck helping/serving  in the pub (Travellers on their way to Appleby horse fair).

1903 installed with no problems, download was fine once I'd got a fast conection, but install took it's time.

Looking round the settings obviously there are changes, but no problems that I can see yet.

[Nergal]

No matter what I do (short of making a install disc and forcing it) I can't get above 1803 oh well I hardly use a pc any more

[Andavari]

Nergal it's not too much of a surprise that the previous v1809 wasn't offered with all the issues it initially had and the continued issues being found with it. I think I read somewhere online where the install rate was only in the 20% range.

Only thing is with v1903 and the potential issues listed and versions of drivers and software they state are needed from OEM's, well good luck with that. Many OEM's offer "new" drivers at a glacial speed.

[nukecad]

9 hours ago, Andavari said:

Only thing is with v1903 and the potential issues listed and versions of drivers and software they state are needed from OEM's, well good luck with that. Many OEM's offer "new" drivers at a glacial speed.

I have a qualcom wifi driver so was a bit wary of that issue, I checked for an update for it before installing 1903 and it said it was up to date.

So I went for it and it wasn't a problem.

[nukecad]

15 hours ago, Nergal said:

No matter what I do (short of making a install disc and forcing it) I can't get above 1803 oh well I hardly use a pc any more

You'll jump 1809 (they stopped pushing it out on Automatic Updates some time ago) and go straight to 1903:
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3396660/microsoft-orphans-windows-10-1809-prepares-to-jump-1803-users-straight-to-1903.html

[Dave CCleaner]

For those who like graphs, estimate of Windows 10 version uptake rate as of April https://reports.adduplex.com/#/r/2019-04

[Nergal]

12 minutes ago, Dave CCleaner said:

For those who like graphs, estimate of Windows 10 version uptake rate as of April https://reports.adduplex.com/#/r/2019-04

I see a lot of windows version fragmentation, and it's a flaw of Microsoft's own making.

[Andavari]

Supposedly the update can break System Restore/System Protection, came upon that info purely by accident when looking for Computex 2019 videos on YouTube.

[nukecad]

On 27/05/2019 at 13:09, Andavari said:

Supposedly the update can break System Restore/System Protection, came upon that info purely by accident when looking for Computex 2019 videos on YouTube.

It's not specific to the 1903 update, it's any Windows 10 version update.

It's been known about for a while, but TBH it's manually triggered, by using a set of steps that very few people would ever think to do.
(Unless they were looking to find an issue to shout about perhaps?).

ie. Install a new Windows version and then try to use Restore to go back to a restore point made before the update.
And of course the restore point from the old version is not going to work in the later version.
(You'd have to roll back the version first and then use the old RP).

If you think about it it's the equivalent trying to use an XP restore point on Win 7, that's not going to work.
(Though you wouldn't even think about trying that because the XP RP would have been deleted when you installed 7).

Most people wanting to go back shortly after installing a new Windows 10 version would use 'Go Back to a Previous Version of Windows 10" instead of trying to use a restore point.

Here's the MS page about it:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4503117/system-restore-on-windows-10-fails-after-you-install-updates

[Andavari]

Good to know, and that it has an official Microsoft page. I for one don't rely upon System Restore Points but instead Macrium Reflect disk images.

[nikki605]

7 hours ago, Andavari said:

Good to know, and that it has an official Microsoft page. I for one don't rely upon System Restore Points but instead Macrium Reflect disk images.

+1

I do exactly the same. Macrium is my lifeboat.

[Andavari]

I finally updated to Win10 1903.

Only issue I had was I needed to update the Intel Audio Display driver first. Would've made more sense had the Media Creation Tool had instead simply stated to install the newest VGA Intel Graphics Driver from the OEM PC manufacturer to get the required compatible version of the driver.

[Dave CCleaner]

On 23/05/2019 at 18:10, Dave CCleaner said:

For those who like graphs, estimate of Windows 10 version uptake rate as of April https://reports.adduplex.com/#/r/2019-04

Update for uptake rate as of the end of June - 6.3%.  Full report from AdDuplex here: https://reports.adduplex.com/#/r/2019-06

[Dave CCleaner]

August numbers on the 1903 release now have the uptake sharply jumping to 33%. Full report from AdDuplex here: https://reports.adduplex.com/#/r/2019-08