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cc v5.39 Firefox needs to be closed... but its closed

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hi fans,

 

after the first start of my laptop with my w8.1 64 bit today and run ccleaner it says me:

(i use ff 52.6.0 esr 32 bit)
 

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Firefox needs to be closed to clean the Internet History.

Do you want CCleaner to close Firefox?

 

 but ff was not open.

 

ofcourse ccleaner cant close ff  -> ff isnt open

 

 

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any chance you opened Task Manager to confirm no firefox.exe process were running?

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yes, there was no firefox-process to see in the task-manager...

 

ccleaner was the first app i started.

 

ps:

i have all selections of firefox ticked in ccleaner -> except "internet cache" and "cookies"

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Try Process Explorer from Sysinternals, its free, doesn't need installation.  Once or twice it has showed FF to be running here when nothing else did.  Wild swing, but worth a shot. 

Listed here.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/sysinternals-suite

More specifically

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer

 

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Try Process Explorer from Sysinternals, its free, doesn't need installation.  Once or twice it has showed FF to be running here when nothing else did.  Wild swing, but worth a shot. 

yes, there was an entry with process explorer... 1x firefox with size of 220 mb. not showing in the taskmanager.

perhaps this is a thing with classic shell and installed firefox v52.6.0 a few days ago... i only shutdown my laptop, not restart.  (this option in classic shell startmenu)

(perhaps works w8.1 combined with classic shell on another way as i know with windows 95, 98, me, 2000, vista, xp and 7...)

after restart instead shutdown -> all its fine, no more firefox in the background :-) and ccleaner runs through

 

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Also do you have FastBoot enabled?

Monitoring?

i found no bios-option like this in my laptop... but i think yes

ccleaner monitoring is disabled.

 

thanks all for your fast help :)

 

 

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Fwiw you can use process explorer to shut down or suspend FF.  I run FF 52.6.0 on win xp and sometimes the HDD gets very busy.  That stops when FF is suspended or stopped.

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trium I always turn off FastBoot/Fast Startup on all my Win 10 machines. Have a read here

https://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/

In particular read the paragraphs about ''Why You Might Want to Disable Fast Startup''

Many a problem can be solved by turning it off, after all it is only a ''pretend shutdown'' so why not always do a real one?
 

 

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@hazelnuti have found the option "fast startup" and deactivate it... lets see what happens next time. :-)

 

ps: the process "firefox" found with process explorer a few days before couldnt shut down (access denied or so). only the restart makes my day :-) perhaps a problem together with "classic shellmenu" and its shut down button, perhaps a problem with the last update from firefox esr... i dont know

 

@Andavari i think, ill download the portable ff esr :-)

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4 hours ago, trium said:

ps: the process "firefox" found with process explorer a few days before couldnt shut down (access denied or so). only the restart makes my day :-) perhaps a problem together with "classic shellmenu" and its shut down button, perhaps a problem with the last update from firefox esr... i dont know

Try right click & start process explorer as administrator.  Works here on win 7, not needed on win xp. 

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trium there must be something wrong., with Fast Startup disabled my boot is about 20/25 seconds to my desktop...however I don't log in.. I always just boot straight to the desktop on all my machines.

The only thing I have running at boot is my AV and Sandboxie.

Also uninstall Classic Shell as a test, I believe it may cause issues for some folk because of the fast development of Win 10 which it cannot keep up with.

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8 hours ago, hazelnut said:

trium there must be something wrong., with Fast Startup disabled my boot is about 20/25 seconds to my desktop...however I don't log in.. I always just boot straight to the desktop on all my machines.

yes, there was some wrong. 3 min to login-screen...

8 hours ago, hazelnut said:

Also uninstall Classic Shell as a test, I believe it may cause issues for some folk because of the fast development of Win 10 which it cannot keep up with.

i have unsinstalled classic shell and now from 3:30 min startup down to 1:40 min to the login-screen... at least the half of boottime :)

with boot is avg and realtek audio on

ill try a new installation of classic shell and look at the boottime

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11 hours ago, login123 said:

Try right click & start process explorer as administrator.  Works here on win 7, not needed on win xp. 

to late -> the wrong firefox-process is done from background a few days ago and i cant try it again. but i believe you :-)

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Does the current installed version(s) of Firefox install a service? I don't know if they do or don't but perhaps that's something to look into to rule out it remaining running in the background.

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i dont remember me exactly, but normaly yes. it called "Wartungsdienst" -> maintenance service -> i dont install it, i denie the installation of this firefox-service every time

 

i think with the last update of firefox esr that the installprocess wasnt go very well and with my shutdown instead restart it would not right way processed.

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