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After defraggling, 1 block is left with lots of fragmented files

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I am somewhat a novice at this, so bear with me.. After several attempts to completely defrag my files, there is always one (or sometimes more) blocks left that remains severely fragmented. I click on the individual block to display files and it shows literally thousands of files in this one block still fragmented. So I click on the box that selects all files, then click "defragment" the individual files. The defragmenting starts and runs for about 6 hours til it gets to around 70% complete, then it always stops and says something like process aborted. Can not be completed. I've tried this several times with the same results. Is there any way I can get these last blocks defragmented? It also says like 5, 6, sometimes 7 Gb remain fragmented. I'd really like to get my whole drive defragmented once and for all. Anyone have any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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what's the list of names given when you click on this one block?
that should give the reason why: like it contains the pagefile, or hibernation file or restore points, things like that.

but really, what you are chasing is not only the Holy Grail of disk management but will be completely in vain with your very next reboot.

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I just looked at some of the names of files, there's a huge variety. A lot of them are my music and picture files, app data, system files, etc. Like right now it's saying there are well over 60,000 files in the list, and it also says there's 8.9 GB of fragmented files in the analysis results with 12% fragmentation (after a full defrag). This just seems like a lot to me. But like I say I'm just a novice to this kind of stuff. Are you saying then this is fairly normal to have and it's nothing to worry about? 

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- In Windows XP those System Restore Points (SRPs) can be defragmented by Defraggler (DF). But in newer Operating systems (e.g. Windows 7 and later) DF is unable to defragment those files. But you can tell DF to not show those SRPs.

- Try the following: (temporarily) disable the SRP feature in Windows, remove all SRPs, defrag as much files as possible and then turn on the SRP feature.

- I personally I regularly (say every week) move all non-system files to the end of the drive and regularly move all system files towards the beginning of the drive. DF has a number of options/features to do that.

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@robbb, taking a step back, what type of hard drive are we talking about here?

age?
OS?

in DF go to Settings > Options > Advanced > tick Stop VSS and tick use custom frag settings and click Define and tick both boxes in there.

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Ok well my hard drive is about 1 week old, I just barely bought this computer new 1 week ago. But I transferred all my files from my old computer. It's a Dell Inspiron with Windows 10. After complete defrag it's showing in analysis 11 fragmented files (8.8 GB), 366 total fragments with 12% fragmentation. It also says "disk Health GOOD." A couple of the blocks are pink with thousands of files in them. The reason I'm concerned is on my external backup hard drive I did an analysis and it showed all blue blocks with 0% defragmentation. Like I mentioned, I'm a novice at this but it's got me a little worried cuz it's a brand new computer and my C drive has got a lot of pink blocks and showing 8.8 GBs of fragmented files. Is this something I should be concerned about? I still haven't done your suggestion of stopping VSS yet, I guess I'd just like a reply to this question first before I do any advanced settings.. Thanks for your reply and any further advice! :)

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Well I can only tell you what I would do..Turn off system restore and delete all restore points.

Reboot and turn it back on again also using the option to create a restore point at the same time.

https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-system-restore-in-windows-vista/

It can be interesting to notice what free space you have on the C drive before you do this, then have a look afterwards. 

Then see what Defraggler says an an analyse, however on Win 10 the system takes care of defragmenting drives in the background along with general maintenance.

To see what Windows says about your drive enter defrag into search and it should come up. You can do an analyse and see what it says. Also check it is set up to work automatically (you'll see the option)

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Ok I just did a windows defragment analysis, and it's showing 1% DF on my my C drive, yet the defraggler shows 12%. This is getting very confusing..

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yes windows defrag is set to work automatically. It's showing 1% defrag while defraggler is showing 12% with 8.8GBs fragmented files. I'm really confused, this is a brand new computer!

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I'm starting to think I'll just stick with the Windows defraggle version (1%) and delete the "Defraggler",(12%)  and all my problems will be solved.. ?? ... ???

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don't worry about the difference, it'll just be DF including things it probably shouldn't.

if you turn off the things mentioned in my first post then DF may get more within the % that Windows Defrag is showing.

if you are still worried show us a screenshot of the files mentioned by DF.

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MTA, Ok I did what you said and ran another analysis and this time came up with only 2.2 GB frag, then ran another full defrag and that knocked it down to 1.3 GB fragmented files! I guess my question is, is this ok and normal for a brand new computer to have that much fragmentation? Is this nothing to worry about, or do I have some kind of a problem? (Like I mentioned, my external backupHD shows all blue blocks and 0% frag. that's what I was shooting for on my C drive) thanks again for your advice..

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For what it's worth, I believe that Windows defrag doesn't include large fragments (I think it's 64 mb) in its defrag count. So if a file has fragments larger than 64 mb it isn't classed as fragmented. I've no idea what Defraggler does.

Personally I'd forget it. Why chase your tail for something that won't last five minutes and has no noticable benefit at all?

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Thanks Augeas! that's basically what I was getting at is if this is something I should be concerned about or just let it go. It does seem a little weird to me tho that one of my drives has 0% Frag and my C drive has 12% Frag with 14 or sometimes more GBs Frag and people are telling me don't worry about? What's the point of Defraggling then if it does no good and the frag just returns after my next boot? Well I'm just going to forget about any more DFing then and just let Windows handle it. Thank you..

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4 hours ago, robbb said:

What's the point of Defraggling then if it does no good and the frag just returns after my next boot?

BINGO.
that's exactly the issue if trying to get your frags down to 0%.

and the reason one drive says 0% and another 12% simply comes down to one drive has file types that aren't on the other; system files, windows updates, restore points, pagefile, power-saving files, drivers.... and the list goes on.
you aren't comparing apples with apples.

same goes for different defragging software, they do things differently.

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aw, ok thanks mta! I'm not too good with the technical details of this stuff, and I guess my OCD got the best of me on this one trying to get to 0%! lol It's just that it's my brand new computer and I was trying to keep everything perfect on it! lol.. thanks for your time to clear this up for me!

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