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- The latest OEC Beta version (see previous post) was released on january 15, (2018).

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- Fiddling with the translated version(s) of OEC Beta exposed a number of bugs in the OEC program code. (I LOVE this kind of work). No information available on when OEC v2.80 will be (officially) released. I assume it depends on how fast the work on the translations progresses.

- Still no news on when OEC will support IMAP.

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- OEC supports/uses TLS v1.0, v1.1, and v1.2 for a secure connection with email servers. And that's a problem for users of Windows XP and Server 2003 and older. These Operating Systems only support TLS v1.0. It makes the connection with the email servers (a little) less secure/safe for XP and Server 2003 users.

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/kaushal/2011/10/02/support-for-ssltls-protocols-on-windows/

 

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- The developers have made many code changes inside OEC in preparation for IMAP. But these don't show up yet because they are not done yet with all the changes needed for IMAP and the testing of IMAP.

- When TLS 1.3 is officially released then OEC also will support that version of TLS. Then it seems that MS will stop to support TLS 1.0 (and TLS 1.1. ???) anymore.

- Currently OEC supports 16 languages (incl. english). Volunteers (with the "paid for" version of OEC) who want to add an additional language are still welcome.

Source: the Facebook page of OEC. (available on the homepage of OEC)

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Thanks much, Hazelnut & Willy2.  Looks very nice.  I shall give it a try. 
Haven't thought about a new email provider for years, but I am changing email one way or the other soon.
A question or two if I may. 
Is it easy to save attachments  locally using IMAP?
Are there big working differences between the free and paid? I saw that about the 2 account limit of the free? 

Sorry to ask lazy questions. I am going to change email providers, so this by Hazelnut and Willy2 is very timely.

edit:  on wxp and w7. 

Thanks.  :)

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- Alas. Support for IMAP is still something for the (near ??) future. The developers wrote that IMAP already works on their servers. But that's all they are willing to say. Perhaps they still need to get rid of (A LOT OF) IMAP related bugs in the OEC program code. I don't know what's going on.

- The PRO version allows the user to separate emails in separate "Identities". I.e. you can separate e.g. your private emails from e.g. your work related emails.

https://www.oeclassic.com/online-help-identities

https://www.oeclassic.com/online-help-quickstart

- OEC seems to work on Windows 2000 and newer.

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- Currently the amount of languages supported by OEC has increased to 21. People who want to help to translate the program in more languages are still very welcome.

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- Outlook Express Classic v2.9 (both the free & PRO version) released.

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-  I came across the following text on the Outlook Classic website (posted: October 1, 2016):

"In other news, we are testing IMAP support. It works already and internal builds can connect to a server and fetch messages. But there is a lot of work in tweaking it properly and adding it to the user-interface in a user friendly manner. We'll get there and we will keep you informed."

- Source:

https://www.oeclassic.com/news

Edited by Willy2

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- Outlook Express Classic has an option that tries to automatically configure the settings for a(n) (new) account. This is done with the "Auto Config" button in the "Accounts" menus (Tools > Accounts > Properties > Basic). When the user clicks on that "Auto Config" button then OEC seeks through a list with known settings for a number of domains.
- If the "Auto Config" button doesn't work then the list doesn't (yet) contain the settings for that email provider/domain. In that case the user can help to improve OEC by submitting his/her email/domain settings to the developers of OEC. Send them an email with e.g. screenshots of one's settings and/or provide an weblink to the webpage where those settings are listed. Then the developers will add those settings to their database.

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- OE Classic has reached a milestone. It now supports IMAP. The version that has been released is a socalled "Beta" version. But the developers seem to be/are confident enough to release this BETA version to the users of the PRO version.

- For details on what has been improved/updated with each new version I would refer to one thread from the "Wilders Security" forum:

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/oe-classic-discussions-and-updates.393261/

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- Support for IMAP in OEC is essential if the program wants to become a serious competitor for any other email program.

- Users of the latest Outlook Express Classic PRO version (released june 1, 2019) are encouraged to use/test the program and see whether or not the program code still contains one or more IMAP related bugs. If so, please report them to the OEC developers.

- I would LOVE to test the latest OEC version for IMAP related bugs but due to very specific reasons (No, no details !!!) I am not able to do so.

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- The OEC PRO version (v3.0) is/seems to be able to receive emails from an IMAP account. But I have a problem.

- I have set up a GMail account (IMAP) to test how OEC handles IMAP and to get familiar with IMAP. But up to now I am not able to receive any emails from GMail. OEC says that "Authentication failed". I have tried several things to solve this problem but to no avail. Are there here any peersons who can help me in this regard ? What options need to be changed ? I must say that GMail offers A LOT OF options and I don't know what options must be changed.

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- The solution for the problem in the previous post is to tell GMail to accept "less secure" connections.

- IMAP in OEC v3.0 has advanced to "Public Alpha version 18". And this version does work surprisingly well for a "Alpha" version, IMO.

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- OEC version v3.0 available:
https://www.oeclassic.com/
- Details on the major changes/improvements:
https://www.oeclassic.com/news

(I know that "Under the bonnet" there were (much) more (smaller) changes / bug fixes).

- My personal recommendation is to make a backup of all the user data before upgrading to v3.0. The new version uses a new database structure that is not compatible with previous versions and something could go wrong during installation.
- The installation program of v3.0 will automatically upgrade the database structure during installation.

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I have been using OE Classic for a while now and found many points that come up short when compared to the original Outlook Express. The author of the program talks a lot but I don't get many usable answers. One of the major shortcomings is the inability to be set as the default email program. If the author ever wants to be considered in the big league, to be a useful tool in business, OE Classic needs to be able to respond to accounting programs that send invoices by email like the original Outlook Express, Outlook, Thunderbird, etc. Instead the author wants you to create create your PDF, save it, open his program, create an email, find the document and include it in the email and address it. This is not desirable when compared to the competition. A side note, the "mail" key on my keyboard or the right-click SendTo can not be made to open OE Classic. Another time wasting irritation. It works fine with either Outlook or Thunderbird.
 
It's a shame that Microsoft killed Outlook Express. The only problem it had was it's inability to handle mail folders much larger than about 1.6 GB. It would lock up and quietly loose emails without notice when compacting. Everything else worked just fine as an email program.

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The truth about this software is that it lacks a lot of the basic functions. The developer and the whole company are asses. When something goes wrong they will blame the customer. They advertise the problem is the so called Outlook Express replacement and yet they will advertise it works with an operating system and when their program crashes, they blame the customer. They will release a 3.0 Beta to trick people and then make changes to the final version that will crash your system. They make these moronic comments and assume that everyone is the same in their made up world. They screw up your computer, they want more money to fix the problem they cause. They will bash the customer left and right in their illusions. They give you this long winded excuse to cover the fact that their software plainly doesnt work and they caused the problem. They updgraded the access database which is has nothing to do with anything but yet they blame you the customer. version .05 worked fine with beta 3.0 and then they upgraded to .06 and everything crashed leaving you in the hands of these thieves.

Downloaded version 3.0 release and this is what they respond : "

accept my explanation so I won't even bother. Only when you will care 
to listen, I will care to explain"

Will never pay for a paid version now ever recommend this to our clients. We're in the process of calling Microsoft directly and having their legal department meet with ours on suing this company for bait and switch and pocking fun at microsoft for something that they are trying to cash in on!

They advertise it works with a complete line of operating systems, and then when something doesnt work, they blame you the customer, make all these idiotic moronic conclusions that they know what every computer in the entire world is running, they advertise one thing and then go back on what they boast about left and right. Total Crooks! Since day one, we've been dealing with the attitude problem the owner of this wanna be company has!  And when you want support, you click on the support button, you get a message thats says "PAY UP TO VERSION 3.0"

 Zvonko Tesic your an arrogant crook! Fix is or get sued!

 

OE Classic Upgrade Problem.JPG

FireShot Pro Screen Capture #018 - 'OE Classic - Easy to use Outlook Express replacement' - www_oeclassic_com.jpg

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