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Just curious; in what way "bad", and compared to what other languages?

 

I'm more of a fan of "modern" languages without the superfluous syntax crud like braces and parenthesis. While I can tolerate them (I work with C# quite often), I generally find Java to be painful due to its many inconsistencies. Naming conventions are illogical, the JRE gives absolutely useless stack trace information and the primitive types lack any useful standard methods. Despite having not one, not two but FOUR different "String" classes in the standard library, none of them have anything as even slightly useful.

 

Case and point; two identical programs. One Python, one Java

 

Python

variable1 = 5
if variable1 > 4:
  print("Variable is greater than four!");

 

Java

public static void main(String[] args)
{
int variable1 = 5;
if (variable1 > 4) {
	System.out.println("Variable is greater than four!");
  }
}

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Ah, Python: there's a powerful language! I have done lots of stuff with JavaScript lately (and I admit I like JS), but then I found a way to call Python - what a difference...

 

But I'm afraid we are wandering seriously off-topic...

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I'm more of a fan of "modern" languages without the superfluous syntax crud like braces and parenthesis. While I can tolerate them (I work with C# quite often), I generally find Java to be painful due to its many inconsistencies. Naming conventions are illogical, the JRE gives absolutely useless stack trace information and the primitive types lack any useful standard methods. Despite having not one, not two but FOUR different "String" classes in the standard library, none of them have anything as even slightly useful.

 

Case and point; two identical programs. One Python, one Java

 

Python

variable1 = 5
if variable1 > 4:
  print("Variable is greater than four!");

 

Java

public static void main(String[] args)
{
int variable1 = 5;
if (variable1 > 4) {
	System.out.println("Variable is greater than four!");
  }
}

 

Your ideas are compelling, but I still hate Python3! :angry:

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they made us reinvent the wheel using python3 (ie. we weren't allowed to use any libraries) when i was learning it, it was annoying.

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nergal; that article made me laugh:

 

the new version of python adds "generator delegation to subgenerators or arbitrary subiterators"

the new version of java adds "fixes for 52 security vulnerabilities."

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being new to the forum and interested in this threads suggestion of disabling Java and the reasons, pro & con, of doing so, I'm just wondering what Python has to do with it, or are we just off topic slightly.

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we're off topic majorly, the only tangential similarities are that they both are scripting languages.

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we're off topic majorly, the only tangential similarities are that they both are scripting languages.

Java, in contrast to JavaScript, is not a scripting language.

 

But yes, we are off-topic, led by me. I apologize!

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we are off-topic, led by me. I apologize!

 

Actually; I think it was more my fault.

 

Let's just hop back on topic and wrap this up. Java (like any software on a PC) does contain security issues. If you don't use any applications that require Java to be installed; kill it with fire. The same goes for Flash, Silverlight, Adobe Reader and anything else permitted to directly interface with the web.

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(Oracle) Java disabled in browser for a few weeks now & I notice no difference in any websites I use

I second that.

Since discovering this thread, i've disabled Java in Firefox to confirm some suggestions, and so far have seen no negative impact.

Still have Java installed on the PC though.

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