science man Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Hey guys I've been using defraggler for a few months now. I recently got a new machine loaded all my stuff onto it and am now defragging the drive with defraggler. After getting part way through the job I noticed my free space drastically decreased and continued to. I saw the thread about checking the option "stop VVS...." I did so, and now it seems to be decreasing at a much slower rate. But I want to know, throughout the rest of the defrag job will I get back free space I lost from when I didn't have that option checked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
science man Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Maybe it already did but I'm not sure. Free Space bytes says, a number that's a little over 690,000,000,000 bytes but next that it says 648.2 gig are free. What's the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winapp2.ini Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 You'll probably have to delete the old restore points to free the space back up. run cleanmgr (run-> "cleanmgr") and select more options, remove system restores and shadow copies winapp2.ini additions thread winapp2.ini github Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
science man Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Well this is odd after doing that and running disk cleanup itself, according defraggler the number of free bytes has dramatically dropped, Is it possible defraggler is mis-reading the size info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
science man Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Update: I aborted the defrag and am doing a quick instead. According to what it says the fragmented percentage has actually increased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
science man Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Btw what does VSS stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eL_PuSHeR Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Volume Shadow Copy I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winapp2.ini Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Volume Snapshot Service or Volume Shadow Copy Service. You may find that defragging many files triggers the VSS, and shutting it off (for the purposes of your defrag) may mitigate the effects you're seeing. winapp2.ini additions thread winapp2.ini github Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
science man Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Well I discovered it's a file in the folder called "system volume information" which I'm going to try to compress, that defraggler is making larger and larger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_B Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Well I discovered it's a file in the folder called "system volume information" which I'm going to try to compress, A waste of time and disc space on Windows XP because most of that is already compressed and a supplementary compress makes it bigger not smaller. I doubt that the situation is different with later versions of Windows. Defragging that folder is a waste of time because it is mostly Write-Only apart from when you need to Restore to an earlier point in time. Saving a few seconds on the odd occasion needing a Restore is little benefit for the hours spent by including it in a daily defrag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
science man Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 A waste of time and disc space on Windows XP because most of that is already compressed and a supplementary compress makes it bigger not smaller. I doubt that the situation is different with later versions of Windows. Defragging that folder is a waste of time because it is mostly Write-Only apart from when you need to Restore to an earlier point in time. Saving a few seconds on the odd occasion needing a Restore is little benefit for the hours spent by including it in a daily defrag. Oh ok. Thanks. I cleaned off 112 gig and that seems to have helped because now I restarted the defrag process (regular not the quick one) and it seems to be doing the job much quicker. It should be completed in a day or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manihar234 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Hey guys I've been using defraggler for a few months now. I recently got a new machine loaded all my stuff onto it and am now defragging the drive with defraggler. After getting part way through the job I noticed my free space drastically decreased and continued to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_B Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 It only gets worse before it gets better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Fast Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 After getting part way through the job I noticed my free space drastically decreased and continued to. You need to tick the settings in Defraggler to exclude restore points, hibernation, and turn off VSS when running Defraggler. Else, this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
science man Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 The issue got fixed after I stopped VSS and let the full defrag run all the way through. What does VSS stand for though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eL_PuSHeR Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Copy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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