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I read some of these older comments and I just got to laugh. If you want a secure Firefox while still maintaining good performance on it, consider using something like HTTPS everywhere so you only access sites through secure connections (where available), consider using a more generalized blocking tool, like uBlock Origin, to block malware sites, ads, tracking, etc, and lastly, consider getting rid of flash player and using VLC Player instead. I have been using VLC Player as my only codec for playing video content on the web and so far every site I went on runs on VLC Player just fine. Believe me, you wouldn't even know how much more Firefox is more secure without Flash Player. Don't have to worry about flash based attacks and all those security holes in flash player (while there are a few in VLC, sure, what program doesn't have any, but they are far less severe and there are a lot less in general).

 

I have been using this setup for years and I have never has any performance degrade and never had any malware problems through Firefox. Not too mention Firefox is pretty secure by default, as it has a large community/team and it's open-source.

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should be no need to use HTTPS Everywhere any more as FF automatically tries HTTPS sites first. (if memory serves me right)

has done since v42 (or there-abouts)

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I read some of these older comments and I just got to laugh. If you want a secure Firefox while still maintaining good performance on it, consider using something like HTTPS everywhere so you only access sites through secure connections (where available), consider using a more generalized blocking tool, like uBlock Origin, to block malware sites, ads, tracking, etc, and lastly, consider getting rid of flash player and using VLC Player instead. I have been using VLC Player as my only codec for playing video content on the web and so far every site I went on runs on VLC Player just fine. Believe me, you wouldn't even know how much more Firefox is more secure without Flash Player. Don't have to worry about flash based attacks and all those security holes in flash player (while there are a few in VLC, sure, what program doesn't have any, but they are far less severe and there are a lot less in general).

 

I have been using this setup for years and I have never has any performance degrade and never had any malware problems through Firefox. Not too mention Firefox is pretty secure by default, as it has a large community/team and it's open-source.

So glad you're here to enlighten us about all this stuff we "wouldn't even know" :rolleyes:

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should be no need to use HTTPS Everywhere any more as FF automatically tries HTTPS sites first. (if memory serves me right)

has done since v42 (or there-abouts)

 

Are you sure? When I don't have the plugin installed, some sites still load as http instead of https. Do you have to do some tweaking in about:config to get this to work in FF?

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Sure?, no, but I seem to recall I read it recently.

 

A few months back I jumped from v38'ish on the ESR channel to v43'ish ESR and it was then I discovered FF's change.

But just having done some testing, it usually, but not always, puts in the https:// for you.

 

Having tried to find some answer regarding that, nothing easily popped up.

But there was mention of it behaving differently when using the Address Bar for searching, or directly using the Search Box or typing an address in manually.

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I think what you are seeing is maybe the sites you go to easily encourage the use of https by making it the default connection. I am not aware of FF actually forcing the use of https by default. Maybe there is a way to do it in about:config or something, but I have never been able to figure that out.

 

Unfortunately, using https is a little more then just putting the s at the end of http. Some sites might have support for https, but do not encourage the use of it because of older systems where https is non-existent or maybe system where only SSL/TSL1.0 is used, which are not secure anyways.

 

Anyways, if you do see a way to use https in Firefox with the need of a plugin, please share as I like to my plugins as minimal as possible.

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Are you sure? When I don't have the plugin installed, some sites still load as http instead of https. Do you have to do some tweaking in about:config to get this to work in FF?

I recall that this was noticed when this forum announced the change from http to https and asked us all to change our bookmarks if necessary.

 

I reported at the time that even though my bookmark still said http, Firefox automatically changed this to https when I clicked the bookmark.

 

I tried this with various other bookmarks and they all did the same.

 

Others, including mta, confirmed that they were seeing the same with FFx when using bookmarks.

 

Maybe the ones that are not changing automatically are not configured correctly? (or don't have a https version yet?).

Or it could be that if you are following a link, or typing directly into the address bar, then FFx does not make the substitution?

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I recall that this was noticed when this forum announced the change from http to https and asked us all to change our bookmarks if necessary.

 

I reported at the time that even though my bookmark still said http, Firefox automatically changed this to https when I clicked the bookmark.

 

I tried this with various other bookmarks and they all did the same.

 

Others, including mta, confirmed that they were seeing the same with FFx when using bookmarks.

 

Maybe the ones that are not changing automatically are not configured correctly? (or don't have a https version yet?).

Or it could be that if you are following a link, or typing directly into the address bar, then FFx does not make the substitution?

 

Thanks for clarifying. I will go ahead and disable https everywhere and see how it works out.

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3 days later and it seems everything is connecting through https where it is supported, so I guess you really don't need https everywhere installed. That just leaves me with uBlock Origin as my only addon.

 

Thanks guys for clarifying this.

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Another minor version update, FF 49.0.2:

 

New:

    Asynchronous rendering of the Flash plugins is now enabled by default. This should improve performance and reduce crashes for sites that use the Flash plugin. (Bug 1307108)

Fixed:

    Change D3D9 default fallback preference to prevent graphical artifacts (Bug 1306465)

    Network issue prevents some users from seeing the Firefox UI on startup (Bug 1305436)

    Web compatibility issue with file uploads (Bug 1306472)

    Various security fixes

    Web compatibility issue with Array.prototype.values (Bug 1299593)

Changed:

    Diagnostic information on timing for tab switching (Bug 1304113)

    Fix a Canvas filters graphics issue affecting HTML5 apps (Bug 1304539)

 

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- I have two GOOD reasons why I prefer IE (11) over Firefox and use FF as little as possible.

- But I have one question: Has FF been improved when it comes to memory usage ? I've heard that FF was "very reluctant" when it comes to releasing memory (especially with add-ons). Even CLEANMEM wasn't able to convince FF to release memory. Has that behaviour improved in the last several years ? Does anyone know ?

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Firefox just updated itself to v50.0 on my machine.

 

No warning, it didn't even ask if I wanted to. (Always has done in the past).

 

I launched FFx from the taskbar and it flashed up  a box saying "Updating FireFox" or something like that and then loaded the release notes in a tab.

 

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/50.0/releasenotes/

 

EDIT.

Checking the Options>Advanced I found that 'Automaticaly Install Updates' had been selected.

(Along with 'Use a background service..' and 'Automatically update search engines').

I certainly had not selected these settings, I always have 'Notify me but let me choose when to update' selected in all my software.

(And I did not have the other 2 enabled either).

 

Looking about on the web I see it's not the first time that FFx has changed settings like this on its own without warning users.

 

If you have v49.# installed you might want to check these settings - if you get chance before it updates itself to v50.

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Firefox just updated itself to v50.0 on my machine.

 

No warning, it didn't even ask if I wanted to. (Always has done in the past).

 

I launched FFx from the taskbar and it flashed up  a box saying "Updating FireFox" or something like that and then loaded the release notes in a tab.

 

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/50.0/releasenotes/

 

EDIT.

Checking the Options>Advanced I found that 'Automaticaly Install Updates' had been selected.

(Along with 'Use a background service..' and 'Automatically update search engines').

I certainly had not selected these settings, I always have 'Notify me but let me choose when to update' selected in all my software.

(And I did not have the other 2 enabled either).

 

Looking about on the web I see it's not the first time that FFx has changed settings like this on its own without warning users.

 

If you have v49.# installed you might want to check these settings - if you get chance before it updates itself to v50.

Not sure why those got randomly flipped for you, but at the least the updater service and auto update options have existed for quite some time and are not new, I'm not sure if Mozilla forced their perfs a certain way for release users (though I think they are trying to move to a Chrome-style "background updates" )

 

 

 

 

- I have two GOOD reasons why I prefer IE (11) over Firefox and use FF as little as possible.

- But I have one question: Has FF been improved when it comes to memory usage ? I've heard that FF was "very reluctant" when it comes to releasing memory (especially with add-ons). Even CLEANMEM wasn't able to convince FF to release memory. Has that behaviour improved in the last several years ? Does anyone know ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

e10s has done a lot to help with this. A lot of addons aren't fully compatible yet, but [on nightly] can be forced to use "shims" which are basically a bandaid for synchronous calls to the main process that would otherwise cause problems. e10s is now active without addons on release, I'm not sure what the timeline for pushing it to people with addons installed is though.

 

My firefox as I write this post with 6 open tabs (https://www.furiouspaul.com/overwatch/mercy.html#boost, https://isthereanydeal.com/, https://isthereanydeal.com/log/#/page:user/wait/defaults, http://www.stonybrook.edu/commcms/registrar/_includes/contacts.html, https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/catastrophe-bundle?utm_source=Bundle%20Stars%20Newsletter&utm_campaign=458f9f9ebe-Cat_Bundle_Americas_11_16_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3437eaaeba-458f9f9ebe-418668713&mc_cid=458f9f9ebe&mc_eid=62daa6e951, and this page) is

 

firefox.exe 361 MB (this is the browser chrome process)

firefox.exe 361 MB (this is the content process)

firefox.exe 15 MB (this is the compositor process which is rather new to nightly and has something to do with parallelization in preparation for a portion of rust code from Servo that they're porting to Gecko - I'm not entirely sure right this moment - More on Servo stuff here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Quantum )

 

My enabled addons are

 

Activity Stream

CheckCompatibility

Chrome Store Foxified

InlineDisposition

Reddit Enhancement Suite - This addon in particular on Fx I believe uses SHIMS unless you install the WebExtension version from the Chrome Store (by using Chrome Store Foxified)

Restart

Tab Center

Test Pilot

uBlock Origin

 

FWIW opening and subsequently closing all the tabs to make that list raised my content (tab) process memory usage by about 30MB, but triggering a manual GC via about:memory released it all (the browser process also dropped down to 291MB when I GC'd)

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ff with a few addons and one tab f.ex. google --> 373 MB

 

ie 11 one tab --> 67 - 76 MB (but i think there are a few windows-services with more ram usage)

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ff with a few addons and one tab f.ex. google --> 373 MB

 

ie 11 one tab --> 67 - 76 MB (but i think there are a few windows-services with more ram usage)

FF with 15 addons and 200 tabs - 1.1gb :D

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Only if he gets 1000 plus tabs will he be in SuperFast's league. :lol:

I don't NORMALLY have that many open (I did hit just over 300 a little while back, that's probably my record. And also the point I slapped myself and dealt with them lol). I get easily distracted and leave stuff open to read another time, then never do! In my defence I do use BarTab to unload unused tabs and rarely have more than 5 or 6 actually loaded tabs :ph34r:

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