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I thought it wasn't too bad actually.

I mean, let's face it, they could have gone for a mozillian other choices.

It's simple, clean, to the point, self explanatory, everything a logo should be.

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A rather damning assessment of Mozilla's new logo. Good read

 

 

Mozilla’s new logo is 20 years out of date, does nothing to address why people don’t use Firefox

 

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/243008-mozillas-new-logo-20-years-date-nothing-address-reasons-people-dont-use-firefox?source=Computing

 

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as to that author of the article, thank god everyone is allowed their own opinions, even biased, wrong ones, it's all good.

nothing wrong with that, he'll get to the realisation one day.

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Looks like the update to 51.0 has been turned off (since yesterday). Mine is saying that 50.1.0 is still the current version.

 

 

Must have found problem with it since launch that they are sorting out (again).

 

 

EDIT (10 mins later).

 

The update link is back again now, 51.0.1, so it looks like they have done a minor fix.

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Not sure why, but that double posted after the edit? (Doesn't seem to be an option to delete a post).

Maybe I hit the quote button instead of the edit?

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Looks like the update to 51.0 has been turned off (since yesterday). Mine is saying that 50.1.0 is still the current version.


Must have found problem with it since launch that they are sorting out (again).


EDIT (10 mins later).

The update link is back again now, 51.0.1, so it looks like they have done a minor fix.

Yup: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/51.0.1/releasenotes/

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Those wacky developers - "Putting the text representation of the new Mozilla logo (“moz://a”) into the URL bar now sends the user somewhere" :rolleyes:

Tested in my nightly and putting in moz: takes you to https://blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/

 

you dont have to follow it with //a, moz:abc123 works just the same :lol:

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Firefox 52 is released

 

 

 

Firefox 52.0 also improves the downloads experience by adding notifications for failed downloads, bigger buttons for restarting or canceling a download, and access to up to five of the most recent downloaded files. Other than that, it improves the text input for third-party keyboard layouts on Windows OSes.

Additionally, it removes support for NPAPI (Netscape Plugin API) plugins except for Adobe Flash Player, which means that Microsoft's Silverlight, Oracle's Java or Adobe's Acrobat plugins are no longer supported. Mozilla Firefox 52.0 also removes the Battery Status API reducing browser fingerprinting by various trackers.

 

More info on it here

 

http://news.softpedia.com/news/firefox-52-0-released-as-esr-branch-will-receive-security-updates-until-2018-513620.shtml

 

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And the first problem is.........

 

After updating to 52.0 some, not all, of my saved usernames and passwords are not filled in automatically.

 

It seems to be only vBulletin based forums that are affected, others that are based on alternative software, such as this one, are fine.

 

They are still in the saved password list, they are just not populating the logins automatically.

 

Restart / reboot has no effect.

 

It seems that FFx 52 is blocking these websites, odd that they are all vBulletin based forums.

 

When I try to enter my username/password manually I get the message:

"This connection is not secure. Logins entered here may be compromised. Learn More"

 

And I am unable to even login manually.

 

Way to go FFx 52.0 you have locked me out of some of my favourite websites.

 

I'm still investigating.

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So this is what I am seeing:

https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Protect-your-privacy/Insecure-password-warning-in-Firefox/ta-p/27861

 

FFx 52 is not just blocking HTTP sites either, it's also blocking HTTPS sites.

 

But as I say, funny that they are all vBulletin based forums.

(EDIT: Just found it doing the same with a Xenforo based forum, but Xenforo is also a development of VB).

 

I have managed to login to some of my favourites now, but it's a PITA I could do without.

(You have to click on the username shown in the warning, you can't even enter it by hand).

 

And just to double check I tried a site that I know is an "insecure" HTTP,  my council website where I have an account.

No problem with my saved name and 2 levels of passwords there, all filled in automatically.

 

So it seems that this new 'Security Measure' is not blocking all HTTP like it says it will, but it is blocking all vBulletin even when they are HTTPS.

 

Anyway - Since when did Mozilla become the Internet Police?

Remember we are talking about Fora here, it's not like we will be entering credit card details or anything.

 

I'm off to do some more research, and maybe complain to Mozilla.

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So this is what I am seeing:

https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Protect-your-privacy/Insecure-password-warning-in-Firefox/ta-p/27861

 

FFx 52 is not just blocking HTTP sites either, it's also blocking HTTPS sites.

 

But as I say, funny that they are all vBulletin based forums.

(EDIT: Just found it doing the same with a Xenforo based forum, but Xenforo is also a development of VB).

 

I have managed to login to some of my favourites now, but it's a PITA I could do without.

(You have to click on the username shown in the warning, you can't even enter it by hand).

 

And just to double check I tried a site that I know is an "insecure" HTTP,  my council website where I have an account.

No problem with my saved name and 2 levels of passwords there, all filled in automatically.

 

So it seems that this new 'Security Measure' is not blocking all HTTP like it says it will, but it is blocking all vBulletin even when they are HTTPS.

 

Anyway - Since when did Mozilla become the Internet Police?

Remember we are talking about Fora here, it's not like we will be entering credit card details or anything.

 

I'm off to do some more research, and maybe complain to Mozilla.

Sound like a pain. And exactly the sort of thing that's making me hold off updating, at least till the inevitable 0.1 bugfix release anyway.

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It seems like this behaviour has been intended, and has been being worked on, for a while.

 

It is not regarded as a bug by the developers, but as a 'good thing'.

So don't expect it to be changed unless they start to get a LOT of complaints.

OK, I can sort of see the point of it, for users who don't know the risks, but why force it on all users without any warning, and with no easy way to turn it off?

The password field warning bit itself is not too bad.
But blocking the associated autofill passwords within forms is a pain for me. (and quite a few others from what I have been reading).

Instead of 2 clicks to login to my favourite forums it's now taking 5 or 6, and maybe some typing.

Anyway I have found (some of) the Firefox config. settings to disable this behavour and am playing about with them.

Trouble is I keep running out of login attempts on VB forums and having to wait 15 mins for them to reset. LOL.

 

And of course not everybody is going to be comfortable with going into the config. settings, as the warning page says "Here be Dragons".

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Well I've now fiddled with the Firefox config. settings and got the auto filling of login forms working again for all my vBulletin and Xenforo sites except one.

 

That one may be doing something slightly different because it is the one where I am a Super Moderator.

 

I'm still getting the warnings but I can live with that for now.

I tried turning them off in config. but that just blocked logins altogether again.

 

And yes I have sent some snotty feedback to mozilla.

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