Still 53% fragmented?

[gaf]

Vista laptop. 1st ran Windows Defrag overnight, then d/l'd Defraggler. Analyse = 53% so ran full defrag over many hours. Shows complete but next analyse still shows 53% fragmented. Have now Defragglered about 4 times & it still lists 53% fragmented. Not sure what other info you might need to explain this to me. NTFS 230GB harddrive, 163GB free. I read through the help docs but didn't find this issue described.

 

Thanks!

Gail

[Guest]

Is your freespace really fragmented? What files are they? Do they belong to the folder System Volume Information?

[Winapp2.ini]

Which files are the ones that remain fragmented? Could you provide a list of the biggest ones?

[gaf]

>>Is your freespace really fragmented? What files are they? Do they belong to the folder System Volume Information?<<<

 

>>Which files are the ones that remain fragmented? Could you provide a list of the biggest ones? <<<<

 

Cookideater & Winapp2.ini: I didn't defrag the freespace. Is that what is causing the 53% remark? The laptop had to go on a vacation, so I have to wait until it's return next week to get the list of files. I do remember System Volume Information listed among them. I post again when I have the list of files.

 

Thanks for the replies.

Gail

[Winapp2.ini]

Defgraggler may be setting off the VSS, but it typically only does that when defragging the freespace.

[TRinAz]

>>Is your free space really fragmented? What files are they? Do they belong to the folder System Volume Information?<<<

 

>>Which files are the ones that remain fragmented? Could you provide a list of the biggest ones? <<<<

 

Cogitate & Knapp.IN: I didn't def rag the free space. Is that what is causing the 53% remark? The laptop had to go on a vacation, so I have to wait until it's return next week to get the list of files. I do remember System Volume Information listed among them. I post again when I have the list of files.

 

Thanks for the replies.

Gail

 

HI...had this issue with all my PC's XP Pro -Win 7 Pro - XP Home Edition. Found the following to eliminate the massive fragmented issues after degrag:

 

Under Action/Advanced...run Check drive for errors (may not be necessary but I do this step as #1 anyway)

Run CMD as Administrator - then type the following: chkdsk /f

Select 'Y' from y/n options

Type exit

 

When you reboot Windows will run a disk check and minor repair operation...when windows loads...try Defraggler again. 99.9% of the time all my systems analyze/defrag without errors.

 

Note: most of my fragmentation before running above steps is also System Volume Information...but not always...also have to do above steps after weekly backup or I also get 20-50% fragmentations after system backup is run.

 

Hope this is helpful...??

 

TRinAZ

[DennisD]

That is helpful TRinAZ.

 

Does the "checkdisk" process usually find errors when you do that? This might be an over reaction on my part, but do you have any form of System Drive back ups.

 

I say that only because it's worth having back ups if there is only the faintest trace of something not being 100%.

 

Just a thought, and you've probably already got that covered.

[TRinAz]

Yep...backup & save seperate image weekly...

 

The following is a typical log after running chkdsk /f...usual errors/issues are in red:

 

Log Name: Application

Source: Microsoft-Windows-Wininit

Date: 4/27/2011 10:39:13 AM

Event ID: 1001

Task Category: None

Level: Information

Keywords: Classic

User: N/A

Computer: Home_Desktop

Description:

 

Checking file system on C:

The type of the file system is NTFS.

Volume label is Win 7 Hitachi 750 6-16.

 

A disk check has been scheduled.

Windows will now check the disk.

 

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...

532736 file records processed.

 

File verification completed.

666 large file records processed.

 

0 bad file records processed.

 

2 EA records processed.

 

42 reparse records processed.

 

CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...

615208 index entries processed.

 

Index verification completed.

0 unindexed files scanned.

 

0 unindexed files recovered.

 

CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...

532736 file SDs/SIDs processed.

 

Cleaning up 35 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.

Cleaning up 35 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.

Cleaning up 35 unused security descriptors.

Security descriptor verification completed.

41237 data files processed.

 

CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...

35348448 USN bytes processed.

 

Usn Journal verification completed.

Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.

 

179197008 KB total disk space.

70883624 KB in 295800 files.

145884 KB in 41238 indexes.

0 KB in bad sectors.

640260 KB in use by the system.

65536 KB occupied by the log file.

107527240 KB available on disk.

 

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.

44799252 total allocation units on disk.

26881810 allocation units available on disk.

 

Internal Info:

00 21 08 00 98 24 05 00 32 e7 08 00 00 00 00 00 .!...$..2.......

94 09 00 00 2a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ....*...........

00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

 

Windows has finished checking your disk.

Please wait while your computer restarts.

[DennisD]

Thanks for coming back with that.

 

It's all helpful stuff to folk who either don't run checkdisk now and then, or don't realize the value of doing so.

[eL_PuSHeR]

I agree. Running chkdsk /f before defragging a partition seems a good measure to be on the safe side. Even if there are no errors, you will just spend a few minutes running it.