TheWebAtom Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 With all due respect to Piriform; they don't own the syntax of the winapp files. Technically you cannot hold copyright over a means of expressing information- only the information itself. Not to mention that the "ini" format; despite any minor adaption Piriform have made, is a longstanding invention of Microsoft. That wouldn't be significant except for the fact that Piriform didn't actually write any of the entries. They have no legal basis for telling BleachBit that they cannot use a file that Piriform don't actually hold any rights over. I'm Shane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRyde Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Modified entry: Updated for new Conceiva Mezzmo v3.0.0.0 release [Conceiva Mezzmo*] LangSecRef=3023 Detect=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Conceiva Default=False FileKey1=%ProgramFiles%\Conceiva\Mezzmo|*.txt FileKey2=%ProgramFiles%\Conceiva\Mezzmo\Third\OGMDemuxer\doc|*.*|REMOVESELF FileKey3=%ProgramFiles%\Conceiva\Mezzmo\Third\MKVToolNix|*.txt RegKey1=HKCU\Software\Conceiva\Mezzmo\General|LastWatchFolder - Added FileKey2 and 3 - Edited RegKey1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted February 5, 2013 Moderators Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) That wouldn't be significant except for the fact that Piriform didn't actually write any of the entries. True, but it's on their dotcom site so they can do what they want rather that be in "favour" of the community or not. Personally I use both programs, however I also know it would benefit Andrew to use his own format that's far enough away from the winapp2.ini (file) to never again catch Piriforms eye's, that and along with making it easier to write entries for. The only thing is there's allot more cleaning tools that also use winapp2.ini and did long before BleachBit ever did. Edited February 5, 2013 by Andavari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWebAtom Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 but it's on their dotcom site Irrelevant. There is no "we retain full rights to any content you publish on our website" disclaimer on the signup form (just checked). I also know it would benefit Andrew to use his own format that's far enough away from the winapp2.ini He does. Worst case scenario: he has to convert winapp2.ini to CleanerML on each update. A script could easily be created to automate this process. The only thing is there's allot more cleaning tools that also use winapp2.ini Agreed. I'm Shane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winapp2.ini Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 The only thing is there's allot more cleaning tools that also use winapp2.ini And make money doing so. winapp2.ini additions thread winapp2.ini github Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWebAtom Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 And make money doing so. Still technically not illegal. Although it does make me want to punch them in the throat. I'm Shane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_B Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Although it does make me want to punch them in the throat. Now that might be illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWebAtom Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Now that might be illegal It was self defense, I swear! I'm Shane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winapp2.ini Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 Shane, why punch them when you can rain dropbears on them? winapp2.ini additions thread winapp2.ini github Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktendo64 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Found a file called ism.exe in my %AppData%\utorrent folder, dont know if it would be wise to add ;*.exe to uTorrent More* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted February 6, 2013 Moderators Share Posted February 6, 2013 Found a file called ism.exe in my %AppData%\utorrent folder If you didn't place it in there perhaps VirusTotal or Jotti malware scan it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktendo64 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Not about what it is (its a toolbar installer or something added by the uTorrent installer,) its weather it should be added to winapp2.ini in order to clean it Edit: may not be smart to add *.exe (uTorren.exe may be installed in the same dir,) maybe best to specify the installer.exe's full name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted February 6, 2013 Moderators Share Posted February 6, 2013 On your own computer that would be your choice, but if adware stuff is removed via here it would probably tick someone off claiming it breaks the license agreement, blah, blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktendo64 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Its still extracted if you chose not to install any toolbars (I never install bundled toolbars) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winapp2.ini Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 http://bleachbit.sourceforge.net/news/winapp2ini-issue-piriform-resolved#utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=tweet My initial reaction seems to have been correct: The original article misstated the way winapp2.ini works (calling it "the source of all of CCleaner's rules," etc) and the issue was not the inclusion of winapp2.ini support. winapp2.ini additions thread winapp2.ini github Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted February 7, 2013 Moderators Share Posted February 7, 2013 The original article misstated the way winapp2.ini works... Good news indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nergal Posted February 7, 2013 Moderators Share Posted February 7, 2013 the thing is is that if it can read and intigrate winapp2, it can also integrate the items in the files created with cmd line switch /export which piriform has created so we can customize ccleaner even more. I'd rather the ability to wjnapp2 and view/edit in built rules not be removed, just because another company, whose software is already well known and well regarded, felt it was ok to "bend" the rules. ADVICE FOR USING CCleaner'S REGISTRY INTEGRITY SECTION DON'T JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECKED OFF. Do your Registry Cleaning in small bits (at the very least Check-mark by Check-mark) ALWAYS BACKUP THE ENTRY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BREAK IF YOU DON'T. Support at https://support.ccleaner.com/s/?language=en_US Pro users file a PRIORITY SUPPORT via email support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWebAtom Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I'd rather the ability to wjnapp2 and view/edit in built rules not be removed, just because another company I tend to agree with that. If Piriform are so worried about people using their internal rules, they should remove the 'export' feature. Instead, they should allow a user to add an entry with the same name in winapp2.ini, and CCleaner should override the internal one. (of course, any one with a resource hacking tool could easily get around it) Side note: BleachBit is an open source project, not a company. That sort of mischaracterization warrants a brutal lynching in some forums... open source contributors can be a nasty bunch. I'm Shane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nergal Posted February 7, 2013 Moderators Share Posted February 7, 2013 wait, you tend to agree but then provided a counter argument against not losing the ability. re "company": Autocorrect made me do it, I meant "competitor". For those unaware, one feature of the export command is it allows a user to rename the resulting file from win*.ini to win*1.ini and create their own, replacing, primary rules. ADVICE FOR USING CCleaner'S REGISTRY INTEGRITY SECTION DON'T JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECKED OFF. Do your Registry Cleaning in small bits (at the very least Check-mark by Check-mark) ALWAYS BACKUP THE ENTRY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BREAK IF YOU DON'T. Support at https://support.ccleaner.com/s/?language=en_US Pro users file a PRIORITY SUPPORT via email support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWebAtom Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I think you've misunderstood my alternative. The user should be able to override individual entries without needing to replace the entire file. For example; if I added [Adobe Flash Player] to my winapp1.ini (or winapp2.ini) file, the one used internally should be disabled and replaced. That would allow Piriform to disable the export feature, without actually losing the functionality it provides. I'm Shane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siliconman01 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 New Entry: [Windows 7/8 Search (Windows.edb)*] LangSecRef=3025 DetectOS=6.1| Warning=Checkmark this entry to remove file Windows.edb ONLY if you have Windows Search service disabled. Windows.edb can be several hundred megabytes in size and is not needed if Search is disabled. Default=False FileKey1=%ProgramData%\Microsoft\Search\Data\Applications\Windows\|Windows.edb NOTE: This entry MAY be applicable to Windows Vista and XP; however, I have no way of testing it on these systems. I suspect that if search/Indexing is disabled on Windows Vista and XP, then Windows.edb can be removed. Windows 10 x64 Pro on ASUS Maximus VIII Extreme motherboard, i7-6700k CPU,H220 X2 Liquid Cooler, 64 gbyte RipJaws DDR4 3200 RAM, Samsung 970 Pro NVMe M.2 500 gbyte SSD + Samsung 850 Pro 512 gbyte SSD, EVGA RTX 3060 Titan graphics card (Home Built System); Windows 11x64 Pro on 512 gigabyte Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 Laptop/tablet and Dell XPS 8940 PC. ASUS RT-AC88U router, 14 tbyte WD My Cloud PR2100 NAS Server, 200 Mbps cable Internet, MS Edge Chromium, MS Office 2021 (Local), Casper 11, DisplayFusion (3 Flat Panel Displays per system): Latest Bitdefender Internet Security, Quicken, Weather Watcher Live, ThumbsPlus 10, Sticky Password 8, WD Smartware, CyberLink PowerDVD23, MSI AfterBurner, Rainmeter, 8GadgetPack, and many more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_B Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Warning=Checkmark this entry to remove file Windows.edb ONLY if you have Windows Search service disabled. Windows.edb can be several hundred megabytes in size and is not needed if Search is disabled. If the user does checkmark the entry whilst the service is enabled, OR IF the service is subsequently enabled, WHAT is the consequence ? It may be acceptable if the consequence is that a search instantly results in zero results, but not acceptable if the system locks up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siliconman01 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 New Entry: [MS Office 2013 SkyDrive (setup logs)*] LangSecRef=3021 Detect=HKCU\Software\Microsoft\SkyDrive Default=False FileKey1=%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\SkyDrive\Setup\Logs\|*.* Windows 10 x64 Pro on ASUS Maximus VIII Extreme motherboard, i7-6700k CPU,H220 X2 Liquid Cooler, 64 gbyte RipJaws DDR4 3200 RAM, Samsung 970 Pro NVMe M.2 500 gbyte SSD + Samsung 850 Pro 512 gbyte SSD, EVGA RTX 3060 Titan graphics card (Home Built System); Windows 11x64 Pro on 512 gigabyte Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 Laptop/tablet and Dell XPS 8940 PC. ASUS RT-AC88U router, 14 tbyte WD My Cloud PR2100 NAS Server, 200 Mbps cable Internet, MS Edge Chromium, MS Office 2021 (Local), Casper 11, DisplayFusion (3 Flat Panel Displays per system): Latest Bitdefender Internet Security, Quicken, Weather Watcher Live, ThumbsPlus 10, Sticky Password 8, WD Smartware, CyberLink PowerDVD23, MSI AfterBurner, Rainmeter, 8GadgetPack, and many more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siliconman01 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 If the user does checkmark the entry whilst the service is enabled, OR IF the service is subsequently enabled, WHAT is the consequence ? It may be acceptable if the consequence is that a search instantly results in zero results, but not acceptable if the system locks up. If Search is re-enabled, Windows.edb is rebuilt automatically. Google Windows.edb delete shows several results such as: http://windows7themes.net/what-is-windows-edb-can-i-delete-it-or-change-its-location.html Windows 10 x64 Pro on ASUS Maximus VIII Extreme motherboard, i7-6700k CPU,H220 X2 Liquid Cooler, 64 gbyte RipJaws DDR4 3200 RAM, Samsung 970 Pro NVMe M.2 500 gbyte SSD + Samsung 850 Pro 512 gbyte SSD, EVGA RTX 3060 Titan graphics card (Home Built System); Windows 11x64 Pro on 512 gigabyte Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 Laptop/tablet and Dell XPS 8940 PC. ASUS RT-AC88U router, 14 tbyte WD My Cloud PR2100 NAS Server, 200 Mbps cable Internet, MS Edge Chromium, MS Office 2021 (Local), Casper 11, DisplayFusion (3 Flat Panel Displays per system): Latest Bitdefender Internet Security, Quicken, Weather Watcher Live, ThumbsPlus 10, Sticky Password 8, WD Smartware, CyberLink PowerDVD23, MSI AfterBurner, Rainmeter, 8GadgetPack, and many more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDPower Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 http://bleachbit.sou...tm_medium=tweet My initial reaction seems to have been correct: The original article misstated the way winapp2.ini works (calling it "the source of all of CCleaner's rules," etc) and the issue was not the inclusion of winapp2.ini support. It's a shame they felt the need to go public and blacken Piriform's name BEFORE getting that clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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