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Hi all....

 

First i'd like to thank Piriform for there great apps!!!

 

Now back to Defraggler:

 

After i defrag my drive with Defraggler, it still showing 13% fragmentation after completion! Then i run Diskeeper 2010 (just to check) it shows a Yellow light as a warning status of fragmentation on my drive after Defragler's job! After i defrag with Diskeeper 2010 and it gives me a Green light (status of NO fragmentation), i open Defragler and it still indicates 13% fragmentation!!!

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Are the fragmented files in C:\System Volume Information\ with long random names ?

Is there a way of seeing those files that are still fragmented?

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Please do the following :

 

-Analyze the disk

-Check all files, click "Defrag Checked"

-Analyze the disk again

-Post a screenshot of the "File List" tab after that.

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Please do the following :

 

-Analyze the disk

-Check all files, click "Defrag Checked"

-Analyze the disk again

-Post a screenshot of the "File List" tab after that.

 

Ok, i did everything as you instructed, there are allot less files left after the process, but it's still indicates 13% fragmentation!

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After that, i repeated the same thing and there was only 2 files left, but it still indicates 13% fragmentation!!! That's interesting!!!

 

EDIT: I noticed that those two files are quite large, total weight of those two = a little over 10GB, which is about 13% of my 139GB harddrive!!! I tried to defrag

those two files several times, but they just won't defrag!

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Wow, that is an amazing little app!!!

 

Ok, i figured out what those two files are... Page file and Hibernation!

 

I disabled Hibernation, as i don't use it and now the HIBERFIL.SYS was deleted and after Defraggler's job now i got 8% fragmentation, which is my 6GB Page file (i got 6GB of ram), i'm keeping my page file!!!

 

I absolutely love how in Defraggler i can highlight individual fragmented block and see what it is and defrag it, it's very detailed and easy to use, GREAT JOB Piriform!!! Just LOVE it!!! Thanks!!!

 

Aethec thank's for your help, you really helped me figuring this out!!!

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  • Hit Windows key + Pause/Break key on your keyboard.
  • Choose "Advanced system settings"
  • Click the button in the "Performance" category
  • In the "Advanced" tab, click the "Change" button
  • Select "No paging file"
  • Click the "Set" button, and click OK
  • Reboot
  • Go back to the dialog you just quit, and chose "Custom size"
  • For both the "Initial size" and "Maximum size", type 6144
  • Click the "Set" button, and click OK
  • Reboot

That should "defrag" the pagefile.

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  • Hit Windows key + Pause/Break key on your keyboard.
  • Choose "Advanced system settings"
  • Click the button in the "Performance" category
  • In the "Advanced" tab, click the "Change" button
  • Select "No paging file"
  • Click the "Set" button, and click OK
  • Reboot
  • Go back to the dialog you just quit, and chose "Custom size"
  • For both the "Initial size" and "Maximum size", type 6144
  • Click the "Set" button, and click OK
  • Reboot

That should "defrag" the pagefile.

Thanks:))))) worked great!!!

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You mentioned that you have Diskeeper; you can always defragment the page file using Diskeeper's boot-time defragmentation method. It can also defragment the MFT and folders file at the same time.

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You mentioned that you have Diskeeper; you can always defragment the page file using Diskeeper's boot-time defragmentation method. It can also defragment the MFT and folders file at the same time.

Thank's, but i already said good buy to my Diskeeper 2010!!!

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Hi, I am having a similar problems but mine is saying 31% fragmentation. I have noticed a few things. I have some video files that are pretty large over 2 or 3 gigs each and I also noticed that I have my hard drive set to compression mode. Would either of these situations cause my drive to still have 31% fragmentation? Can you tell me what I should do to help with this situation?

 

Thanks

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Hi, I am having a similar problems but mine is saying 31% fragmentation. I have noticed a few things. I have some video files that are pretty large over 2 or 3 gigs each and I also noticed that I have my hard drive set to compression mode. Would either of these situations cause my drive to still have 31% fragmentation? Can you tell me what I should do to help with this situation?

 

Thanks

Please do the following :

  • Analyze your drive
  • Select all files in the File List tab, and click "Defrag Checked"
  • Analyze again
  • Post a screenshot of the File List tab after that.

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Please do the following :

  • Analyze your drive
  • Select all files in the File List tab, and click "Defrag Checked"
  • Analyze again
  • Post a screenshot of the File List tab after that.

 

Ok, here is my screen shotpost-37473-12735213301_thumb.jpg

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Please do the following :

  • Hit Windows key + Pause/Break key on your keyboard.
  • Choose "Advanced system settings"
  • Click the button in the "Performance" category
  • In the "Advanced" tab, click the "Change" button
  • Select "No paging file"
  • Click the "Set" button, and click OK
  • Reboot
  • Go back to the dialog you just quit, and chose "Custom size"
  • For both the "Initial size" and "Maximum size", type 1024
  • Click the "Set" button, and click OK
  • Reboot

That will defrag the pagefile.

 

Then :

  • In the Control Panel, select Power Options
  • In the Hibernate tab, uncheck the Enable Hibernation checkbox.
  • Reboot
  • If you are using a laptop or netbook, enable it again by checking the checkbox mentionned above and rebooting

That will defrag/delete the hiberfile.

 

Then

That should defrag the rest of the files.

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Please do the following :

  • Hit Windows key + Pause/Break key on your keyboard.
  • Choose "Advanced system settings"
  • Click the button in the "Performance" category
  • In the "Advanced" tab, click the "Change" button
  • Select "No paging file"
  • Click the "Set" button, and click OK
  • Reboot
  • Go back to the dialog you just quit, and chose "Custom size"
  • For both the "Initial size" and "Maximum size", type 1024
  • Click the "Set" button, and click OK
  • Reboot

That will defrag the pagefile.

 

Then :

  • In the Control Panel, select Power Options
  • In the Hibernate tab, uncheck the Enable Hibernation checkbox.
  • Reboot
  • If you are using a laptop or netbook, enable it again by checking the checkbox mentionned above and rebooting

That will defrag/delete the hiberfile.

 

Then

That should defrag the rest of the files.

Hi I tried what you said but it actually made things worse.. I started with 31% fragmented and now I have 35%.. What am I doing wrong??

 

I first removed the paging then the hibernation and finally restarted in safe mode and defragged the free space.. Is that what I should have done?

 

Still frustrated..

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Did you also do a normal defrag (in safe mode too) ?

 

If it doesn't defrag everything... do you have a USB flash drive, SD card, external disk, or other storage device with free space on it ?

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Did you also do a normal defrag (in safe mode too) ?

 

If it doesn't defrag everything... do you have a USB flash drive, SD card, external disk, or other storage device with free space on it ?

 

I only did the complete defrag in the normal mode.. I decided to start over and see what happens.. My computer is in the process at the moment.. Also what do you mean do I have a USB Flash Drive or external disk with free space on it? I don't have one connected to the computer at this time, but I do have some available.. What do you want me to do with those?

 

Ok... I will stop the process and restart the computer in safe mode and do a total defrag from there... This will take awhile ... 24 hours or so... since my drive is big.. But I will check for your posts..

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I think the problem here is the fact that Defraggler can't find enough contiguous free space to defrag your big files.

 

Please do the following :

  • Move all your big files (i.e. > 1GB) on an external disk
  • Defrag free space allowing fragmentation
  • Do a normal defrag
  • Move your big files back
  • In Defraggler's Options, in the Defrag tab, check the "Move large files to end of drive" checkbox, and select 1024 as the limit.
  • Defrag again.

The last two steps are here to make sure those big, rarely used files (you don't watch all your movies everyday) will not slow your computer down since hard drives are faster at the beginning ;)

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I think the problem here is the fact that Defraggler can't find enough contiguous free space to defrag your big files.

 

Please do the following :

  • Move all your big files (i.e. > 1GB) on an external disk
  • Defrag free space allowing fragmentation
  • Do a normal defrag
  • Move your big files back
  • In Defraggler's Options, in the Defrag tab, check the "Move large files to end of drive" checkbox, and select 1024 as the limit.
  • Defrag again.

The last two steps are here to make sure those big, rarely used files (you don't watch all your movies everyday) will not slow your computer down since hard drives are faster at the beginning ;)

 

Thanks.. I will go and try that.. Should I do all of the defragging while in safe mode?

 

I will let you know how it turns out.

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If you don't mind having to boot in Safe Mode, yes, it might be a good idea if Defraggler wants to move some system files that are normally locked.

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Please do the following :

  • Hit Windows key + Pause/Break key on your keyboard.
  • Choose "Advanced system settings"
  • Click the button in the "Performance" category
  • In the "Advanced" tab, click the "Change" button
  • Select "No paging file"
  • Click the "Set" button, and click OK
  • Reboot
  • Go back to the dialog you just quit, and chose "Custom size"
  • For both the "Initial size" and "Maximum size", type 1024
  • Click the "Set" button, and click OK
  • Reboot

That will defrag the pagefile.

 

Then :

  • In the Control Panel, select Power Options
  • In the Hibernate tab, uncheck the Enable Hibernation checkbox.
  • Reboot
  • If you are using a laptop or netbook, enable it again by checking the checkbox mentionned above and rebooting

That will defrag/delete the hiberfile.

 

Then

That should defrag the rest of the files.

 

 

Follow the above procedure BUT change it up alittle

1: disable hibernate and pagefile

reboot

2: run defraggler (thereby defragging only the main system files)

** On a side note, I'll usually shutdown everything running in my system tray, the idea is less running process's = faster defrag, as well as not having to worry about some files not getting defragmented due to being in use. (whether or not this is accurate I can't say for sure, it's just a theory of mine and I do it ...lol)

 

when defrag is complete enable hibernate and pagefile (your choice on which one you want directly after system files)

reboot

 

run defraggler and see the results

 

I did do this, while typing this out on my laptop, defraggler didn't appear to be any slower without the pagefile

results on 24.gb

initial fragmentation Before 49%

fragmentation after 0%

 

seems to work :)

 

**EDIT: I just did this on my laptop as well with the same results 0% when complete

I'd like to add (may or may not be relevant to my findings)

under defraggler/settings/options/defrag

I have "move large files to end of drive" and "move only selected files types" both checked with their default settings

Edited by Droz68

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