Moderators DennisD Posted January 13, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 13, 2008 If I'm not mistaken, DVDShrink doesn't burn. So, what do you use for a burner? DVD Decrypter, and I've never had a failed burn, and you can configure DVD Shrink to use Decrypter, so all you have to do is change disk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted January 13, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 13, 2008 just a thought, if ripping is illegal then why do company's such as Creative, Cowon, Archos, SanDisk, etc. Develop PMPs? Because not all videos are dvd movies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom AZ Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 DVD Decrypter, and I've never had a failed burn, and you can configure DVD Shrink to use Decrypter, so all you have to do is change disk. OK . . . so I'm not a video guy -- which I'm sure is obvious . Can you help me understand the basic functions of each of the following applications. At this point, I'm particularly interested in (DVD) movies: DVDShrink DVD Decrypter DVDFab HD Decrypter ImgBurn Also, will a program like Ashampoo's Burning Studio burn movies/video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted January 14, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 14, 2008 Yes ashampoo burns movies(its what I use). I rip a movie with dvdfab, then shrink it with shrinkto5(found on filehippo) select main movie and slowest compression, then I burn the outputted video_ts folder with ashampoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmartigan Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Plus there are so many different ways and programs to do this with. A couple of guides to read up on. Afterdawn about halfway down Scuba Pete this is how I learned "back in the day" Don't start out trying to back up one of your Disney movies either. I find that they are a bit tougher sometimes. Get the latest software and try out one of your older movies first to learn the basics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldor Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 dvdshrink wont work with a whole bunch of copy protection methods. Its years old and is no longer developed. DVD43 and DVDDecrypter are better, but are not updated as regularly as AnyDVD which is the most current fair use enforcement tool available. I use ImgBurn to burn, which I find more stable than ashampoo and not as bloated as nero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom AZ Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 Anyone have any experience with Ashampoo's "Movie Shrink & Burn 3" (not freeware)? However, now available for $24.99) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom AZ Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 DVD43 and DVDDecrypter are better, but are not updated as regularly as AnyDVD which is the most current fair use enforcement tool available. Is there a freeware version of AnyDVD? By the way, is this a ripper or decrypter -- or both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmartigan Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Is there a freeware version of AnyDVD? By the way, is this a ripper or decrypter -- or both? It is a decrypter and you can get a 30-day trial. It's probably the easiest method, but the freeware route will work just as well. DVDFab is updated frequently and can do your decrypting for you. Then use DVD Shrink or Shrink to 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted January 15, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 15, 2008 Yes ashampoo burns movies(its what I use). The last time I used Ashampoo's Burning Studio it made an unusable DVD Video disc, that and the very first version that was offered for free had less issues than the newest one. Doesn't matter though because I've stopped using it. What I like about ImgBurn is that it will warn if something is wrong, and in many cases can fix it with just one click of a button, whereas with many other burning apps they'll let you burn a non-functional DVD Video disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom AZ Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 What I like about ImgBurn is that it will warn if something is wrong, and in many cases can fix it with just one click of a button, whereas with many other burning apps they'll let you burn a non-functional DVD Video disc. Do ImgBurn and DVD Decrypter essentially do the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted January 17, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 17, 2008 Do ImgBurn and DVD Decrypter essentially do the same thing? No. ImgBurn doesn't decrypt movies whereas DVD Decrypter does. If you're only burning pre-compiled .ISO image files either will work the same, although I prefer ImgBurn. What I've preferred doing lately is using DVD Shrink to do all the decrypting and re-authoring in one go, and it has made DVD Decrypter obsolete for me lately, although I'll hang onto DVD Decrypter in case it's needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom AZ Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 What I've preferred doing lately is using DVD Shrink to do all the decrypting and re-authoring in one go Here comes another dumb question . . . just exactly, what is re-authoring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted January 18, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re-authoring means cutting out the adverts, trailers for up and coming movies, long lists of credits, special bonus features etc. In other words you tell the program just to copy the movie only. Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted January 18, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re-authoring means cutting out the adverts, trailers for up and coming movies, long lists of credits, special bonus features etc. In other words you tell the program just to copy the movie only. Yup! Also to remove foreign languages, director's comments, etc., that consume disc space. In many instances the actual movie is within the disc capacity of a single layer 4.7 GB DVD, so in that case no compression has to be done for it to fit. What I've found lately after really delving into DVD Shrink is that it's good for editing home DVD recordings of favourite TV shows/movies. You have to finalize your re-writtable DVD RW discs that by the way have to be recorded in Video mode, then use DVD Shrink to edit out all the commercials, and finally burn the re-authored version without the commercials to a DVD R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DennisD Posted January 18, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2008 Here comes another dumb question . . . just exactly, what is re-authoring? Tom, the home made tutorial I sent you a while back explained how to use DVD Decrypter and Shrink 3.2, and explained exactly what re-authoring is and how to do it with Shrink 3.2. In case you lost it, it's available here: http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?act=fi...=&pid=59745 Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom AZ Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 Tom, the home made tutorial I sent you a while back explained how to use DVD Decrypter and Shrink 3.2, and explained exactly what re-authoring is and how to do it with Shrink 3.2. In case you lost it, it's available here: http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?act=fi...=&pid=59745 Hope this helps. Thanks, Dennis. I've read and still have the article -- it was very helpful. I guess I was looking for a comprehensive definition of the term "re-authoring." From the article, it appears that re-authoring is limited to "shrinking." Is that it -- or can there be other things involved with the re-authoring process as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted January 18, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2008 Tom, just think of re-authoring as a fancy name for cutting out all of the things you usually fast forward over when watching a dvd. Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DennisD Posted January 18, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2008 Hi Tom, re-authoring just means change things to the way you want them. That may be stripping everything out to make the compression as little as possible for best quality, or leaving stuff in that you want to keep in, such as subtitles, or directors commentary. Whatever. It's a term that sounds more complicated than it is. You can substitute DVD Decrypter with DVD FabHDDecrypter, which you can configure to rip the "Main Movie" only, with relevant sound track, as opposed to DVDDecrypter ripping everything. This means there will no reauthoring neccessary. All you would do with Shrink is compress whatever the file size is to fit onto a single layer DVD. I've backed up a lot of DVD's that didn't need any compression at all, but usually there's some compression needed. And you can't configure Shrink to burn automatically with DVD Fab as you can with the original Decrypter. Try the process with a rewritable DVD if you're not too sure, to save wasting disks, but bear in mind that writing to a rewritable disk is much slower than writing to a DVD-/+ R. Give it a try, and if there's anything in particular that isn't working, or still puzzles you, just pm me, and we'll get it sorted. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom AZ Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 Hi Tom, re-authoring just means change things to the way you want them. That may be stripping everything out to make the compression as little as possible for best quality, or leaving stuff in that you want to keep in, such as subtitles, or directors commentary. Whatever. It's a term that sounds more complicated than it is. You can substitute DVD Decrypter with DVD FabHDDecrypter, which you can configure to rip the "Main Movie" only, with relevant sound track, as opposed to DVDDecrypter ripping everything. This means there will no reauthoring neccessary. All you would do with Shrink is compress whatever the file size is to fit onto a single layer DVD. I've backed up a lot of DVD's that didn't need any compression at all, but usually there's some compression needed. And you can't configure Shrink to burn automatically with DVD Fab as you can with the original Decrypter. Try the process with a rewritable DVD if you're not too sure, to save wasting disks, but bear in mind that writing to a rewritable disk is much slower than writing to a DVD-/+ R. Give it a try, and if there's anything in particular that isn't working, or still puzzles you, just pm me, and we'll get it sorted. Hope this helps. Thanks, Dennis, this does help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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