craigathus Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 The HOSTS file backup isn't a problem per say. I was just letting everyone know that uses the Immunization feature and has a large HOSTS file that Spybot-S&D will create a backup version of the HOSTS file each and everytime you run Immunization - over time those backup HOSTS files will start using up some hdd space. I don't use TeaTimer or any other resident anti-spyware, sure I've dabbled a bit with TeaTimer but it just isn't for me. I just don't get infected with nasties so I see no use for any resident anti-spyware on my system unless of course if it were merged and combined within an anti-virus application. Plus I don't want to be bothered with that type of resident anti-spyware which constantly asks is this and that is alright to add into the registry because in my views it should be smart enough to know if it needs to block a nasty and only then notify me of it doing so. Hi Andavari About "HOSTS file" were can you find it to check how big it is? http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/builds http://www.piriform.com/docs http://www.postimage.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted September 7, 2007 Moderators Share Posted September 7, 2007 About "HOSTS file" were can you find it to check how big it is? WINDOWS HOSTS FILE LOCATIONS: Windows Vista = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC Windows XP = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC Windows 2K = C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC Win 98/ME = C:\WINDOWS ________________________________________ Source for this info came from the middle of the page at http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigathus Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 WINDOWS HOSTS FILE LOCATIONS:Windows Vista = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC Windows XP = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC Windows 2K = C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC Win 98/ME = C:\WINDOWS ________________________________________ Source for this info came from the middle of the page at http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm Thanks for the info Andaravi This is what I found. Files that have been created and or modified since installing SpyBot S&D 1.5 on: 7/September/2007 hosts 175KB File hosts 1KB BACKUP File hosts 175KB BACKUP File Do newer backup files replace "over write" old ones? or does the file just keep getting bigger? http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/builds http://www.piriform.com/docs http://www.postimage.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted September 9, 2007 Moderators Share Posted September 9, 2007 Do newer backup files replace "over write" old ones? or does the file just keep getting bigger? Spybot-S&D will create a brand new backup each time you add or remove it's HOSTS file. From what I've seen it won't overwrite or append anything hence the reason to manually remove them every now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigathus Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Spybot-S&D will create a brand new backup each time you add or remove it's HOSTS file. From what I've seen it won't overwrite or append anything hence the reason to manually remove them every now and then. Andavari I'm not sure what you mean by (add or remove Spybot-S&D HOSTS file)? So which files do you remove? just the ones called backup? and can you just delete them? http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/builds http://www.piriform.com/docs http://www.postimage.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted September 9, 2007 Moderators Share Posted September 9, 2007 Andavari I'm not sure what you mean by (add or remove Spybot-S&D HOSTS file)? So which files do you remove? just the ones called backup? and can you just delete them? Add or Remove the Spybot-S&D HOSTS file just means either enabling it or disabling it. It also implies when the Immunization database has been updated which will update the Spybot-S&D HOSTS file entries with any new entries. The files to remove all end with the extension: .backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigathus Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Add or Remove the Spybot-S&D HOSTS file just means either enabling it or disabling it. It also implies when the Immunization database has been updated which will update the Spybot-S&D HOSTS file entries with any new entries. The files to remove all end with the extension: .backup Ok so, Spybot S&D HOSTS file has to be enabled through the program? it's not on by default? And when Immunizing, the HOSTS file backup won't change "grow bigger" if the Spybot S&D Hosts file is not enabled? Sorry for all the questions Andavari I really do appreciate your help, explanations and advice http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/builds http://www.piriform.com/docs http://www.postimage.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted September 10, 2007 Moderators Share Posted September 10, 2007 Ok so, Spybot S&D HOSTS file has to be enabled through the program? it's not on by default?And when Immunizing, the HOSTS file backup won't change "grow bigger" if the Spybot S&D Hosts file is not enabled? Sorry for all the questions Andavari I really do appreciate your help, explanations and advice As soon as you Immunize I think it will automatically add it's own HOSTS file list into the Windows HOSTS file (I think it's enabled by default). It won't remove what's already in the Windows HOSTS file though. There's also the original way to install/remove the Spybot-S&D HOSTS file list in: Tools->Hosts File The HOSTS file list installed by Spybot-S&D will only get bigger when they update them, and only if you remember to apply Immunize again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredvries Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Maybe CCleaner should remove those backup's of the host file... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted September 10, 2007 Moderators Share Posted September 10, 2007 Maybe CCleaner should remove those backup's of the host file... Problem is the .backup extension is used by several programs, not just Spybot-S&D, but yeah CC could remove them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login123 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Problem is the .backup extension is used by several programs, not just Spybot-S&D, but yeah CC could remove them. In SpyBot 1.4 you had to insert or remove the Spybot hosts file manually, and each time Spybot made a .backup file. The second picture shows Spybot in "Advanced" mode, with "tools", "Hosts File' ticked. At the top are the Add or Remove buttons. You can remove those extra backups by just deleting the files with the .backup extension (the ones in the hosts folder, that is). Below is a picture of mine, as soon as I log off here I will remove the .backups that were made today and put in a "real" hosts file. Better wait 'till Andavari confirms this, he knows a lot more about this than I do. The CCleaner SLIM version is always released a bit after any new version; when it is it will be HERE :-) Pssssst: ... It isn't really a cloud. Its a bunch of big, giant servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted September 11, 2007 Moderators Share Posted September 11, 2007 Your picture of all those .backup HOSTS files explains it better than words. Those are what will start eating up some space over time, of course it does really depend upon how big of a HOSTS file is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login123 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Your picture of all those .backup HOSTS files explains it better than words. Those are what will start eating up some space over time, of course it does really depend upon how big of a HOSTS file is used. Thanks for the kind words. I gotta get into this "hosts file" business, never fooled with it before. Can I just trust good ole Spybot to an effective hosts file in for me? The CCleaner SLIM version is always released a bit after any new version; when it is it will be HERE :-) Pssssst: ... It isn't really a cloud. Its a bunch of big, giant servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted September 11, 2007 Moderators Share Posted September 11, 2007 Thanks for the kind words. I gotta get into this "hosts file" business, never fooled with it before. Can I just trust good ole Spybot to an effective hosts file in for me? Spybot-S&D's HOSTS file is tiny compared to some others like the MVPS.org HOSTS file which protects against a ton of ad's and malware sites, and they even go through the trouble of listing next to an entry why it's blocked like (the actual URL was removed to protect people from curiously clicking upon it to see what happens): 127.0.0.1 somebadsite.com #[html/TrojanDownloader.Agent.BP trojan] You can learn a bunch information about the HOSTS file from MVPS.org. Just remember though if a site you like and know is safe is blocked and not loading that it could be because of what's in the HOSTS file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login123 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Thanks. On the way there now. The CCleaner SLIM version is always released a bit after any new version; when it is it will be HERE :-) Pssssst: ... It isn't really a cloud. Its a bunch of big, giant servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_L Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Is the shredder tool gone or am I just not finding it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted September 12, 2007 Moderators Share Posted September 12, 2007 Is the shredder tool gone or am I just not finding it? The shredder is gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faust Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 The shredder is gone! http://forums.spybot.info/project.php?issueid=28#note160 sybot now uses an external shredder Eraser, if you have this installed then things still get shredded. What if love's intolerable pain never leaves us? Do we dash our bleeding hearts on the rocks of loneliness? And cry unto the lords above who turn away in haste? MY DYING BRIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_L Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Meh. I uninstalled 1.5 and reinstalled 1.4. I have Spybot set so it checks for updates automatically when I open it and the three times I tried to open Spybot 1.5 all three times it would hang and sit and sit and sit and sit when it would do it's updating. Plus I wanted my shredder back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login123 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 tried to open Spybot 1.5 all three times it would hang and sit and sit and sit and sit when it would do it's updating. Plus I wanted my shredder back FYI: I just updated spybot 1.4, and it hung before it finished, also. Maybe the site? Also, Eraser is pretty good, with or without Spybot. The CCleaner SLIM version is always released a bit after any new version; when it is it will be HERE :-) Pssssst: ... It isn't really a cloud. Its a bunch of big, giant servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted September 12, 2007 Moderators Share Posted September 12, 2007 Speaking of Spybot-S&D hanging. The update for today 12 Sept 2007 has caused it to load very slowly on my system. Now I wonder what they've inadvertently did to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_L Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Since reinstalling 1.4 I've not had the problem of it hanging. With 1.5 all three times, or maybe it was twice, I had to control-alt-delete and stop the program. That little box with the green bars that shows the update progress would show all green bars but then it wouldn't go away and Spybot itself would never open. When I did finally get it to open even manually running the update thing it would act clunky. I may give it another try later, but last night I had run out of patience with it. I read the link Faust gave regarding Eraser but I'm a simpleton when it comes to this stuff so i didn't quite understand all the talk about dll files and I'm not clear if there's a setting within SpyBot 1.5 or a button to click like there was in 1.4 with its built in shredder. EDIT: In response to Andavari, I noticed last night that 1.5 was much slower to open compared to 1.4, just seemed clunky. Since reinstalling 1.4 it works just as it always had for me in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted September 13, 2007 Moderators Share Posted September 13, 2007 I noticed last night that 1.5 was much slower to open compared to 1.4, just seemed clunky. Since reinstalling 1.4 it works just as it always had for me in the past. Well I'll give it a few more days until they update it again, and hopefully they correct whatever it is. Luckily I still have the version 1.4 installer archived on a couple of backup CD-R's if I also need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_L Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 1.4 is still available from Filehippo as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcatonnet99 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 By the way has any1 observed the last version 1.4's recent update actually reduced the parameters from 33thousand odd to 28thousand odd which showed up on immunizing the system... bizarre that I've never noticed the immunized files to be ever reduced! after an update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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