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  1. October 1809 Update for Windows 10

    Fair enough, I did interpret your prior comment as blaming the users, so sorry about that, I guess mainly because IMO from a purely technical perspective I can see the point of view that it generally does boil down to the user but at the same time, realistically there is a fair bit of cajoling which helps the error to occur, hence my view is that it's unfair to blame the user in this case (or at least to solely blame the user), and figured I'd point it out. And yeah it could be considered lazy programming, personally I'd be inclined to think it's more due to a lack of consistency since MS insists on implementing things in a rather odd fashion, when compared to both other OS's, and even Older Windows OS's. They have this habit of trying to fix things that aren't broken, or changing things for the sake of change. Like I mentioned in my previous post they could force a redirect at the file system level which is how Linux does these things, and is how they used to do things in prior versions, only instead they changed it so now you can make a blank folder in the user directory with the same name as a redirected folder and you can fill both of them with completely different things. (I'm not really sure it actually qualifies as being a truly "redirected" folder, considering these conditions).
  2. October 1809 Update for Windows 10

    While I'm sure the issue is in many cases inflicted by the user, it's not necessarily the only cause. Part of the issue is for some reason, MS decided to leave the actual default folders within the user directory despite the same folders being redirected. This naturally means those folders exist in two places on the same drive (when viewed from explorer), amplifying confusion when selecting a folder to save stuff too, i.e. "This PC\Documents" (redirect honored) vs "C:\Users\<username>\Documents" (no redirect), Ironically the legacy programmatically accessed "C:\Users\<username>\My Documents" would be redirected. Why they didn't force windows to create hard links (like My Documents) when redirection happens is beyond me, I can only assume this is part of what they were trying to address, by deleting the folders in the update. However, another thing that can happen is these actual folders which should be empty sometimes end up with stuff inside them without user interaction (even if they were empty when/just after the redirection occurred, and/or there wasn't some accidental user selecting the wrong spot issue). Basically some programs seem to end up storing stuff in the non-redirected folders. (again MS didn't force those folders to become file system hardlinks so this COULDN'T happen, for whatever reason), so, either the programs aren't using the correct procedure to get the user's (redirected) folders, or windows is failing to do the redirects under certain conditions. (I know this can happen as I have two programs that did this, although in my case they only created empty folders, but I'm sure there are some programs that do more than create empty folders). Naturally once this does happen, these folders are likely the automatically selected locations for saving from within these programs, so a user doesn't really have to select the "wrong" location, they have apps which help them do it ;).
  3. Windows 10 Update Cleanup

    Yeah I definitely agree with you there. It's not like MS is known for it's ability to fix problems caused by upgrades within 10 days, so it really shouldn't be enforcing a no backsies policy for a timeframe they also can't adhere to. Not to mention it would be somewhat trivial for them to offer a setting which effectively alters the run time of a task that is going to do the work. Especially when you consider the task that controls this functionality doesn't actually allow the trigger time itself to be altered via task scheduler, it only allows toggling whether it's disabled/enabled. I know I'm willing to put up with a problem that's introduced for around a month (assuming it's an intermittent issue, not some major always happens problem) but if it takes much longer I'd be inclined to roll back, the issue with 10 days, is sometimes the intermittent problems aren't even apparent till it's too late.
  4. Windows 10 Update Cleanup

    Regarding Windows.old removal, Assuming system sense is to also include the same options to do the same thing as the "old" disk cleanup. Windows.old cleaning was always handled via a separate option named something along the lines of "remove previous windows installations" (which was a dynamic option in that it only ever existed as an option when there was a windows.old to clean. also disk cleanup needed to be run as admin, or the clean system files button needed to be clicked). The delivery optimization & Windows Update cleanup options, were and still are always present, but didn't (and I assume won't) do anything with windows.old when the old chestnut crops up again. Also regarding the 10 days auto cleanup, you can stop it from happening, it's controlled by a task in task scheduler. I can't remember 100% which task it was, But it's relatively easy to find if you use something like Nirsofts taskscheduleview.exe which lists all tasks in a sortable listbox view (i.e sort on next run time). When it's active it will be scheduled to run in approx 10 days and it's a one off task (i.e. not monthly or weekly), and will likely be the only one that is set to run this far in the future. The problem with saying exactly which task it is, is that currently whatever task it is (I suspect "start component cleanup") isn't set to run at any future time, along with many others, and also my suspicion could be wrong, and the task itself may self delete after being run, I just remember when I did it, it seemed fairly self-evident which task would control it, and disabling that task did in fact work until I decided the update was safe, so I re-enabled the task, just in case it was needed for other cleanup stuff. Anyway just thought I'd mention it in case it's something someone might find useful and want's to investigate after the next feature update. I wouldn't recommend it over a backup, but it could be convenient keeping the rollback option around a bit longer.
  5. The Firefox/Mozilla Thread

    To be fair this has little to do with European regulations, or even the software invading ones privacy. It's actually highlighting a potential privacy issue, which could occur if the end user fails to sign out of signed in accounts, before letting someone else use the device, even though they've shut down the browser. Which is only logical since the browser was set to load the last opened pages. What I find ironic here is this already happens even if you don't have pages open automatically, it's simply that the pages you're signed into aren't "advertised" by being opened automatically. Currently with many pages if you fail to sign out, and just close them you'll still be logged in the next time you open that page, irrespective of which browser you use or if you've shut down the browser or computer in the mean time (it does require the same browser to be used and for it to not be clearing cache cookies etc on exit, as this is where that login info is usually stored, it also often requires you to Uncheck the "remember me" setting on a given site i.e. Opt-out if you don't want that login to be restored, since many sites have it checked by default). Very little to do with firefox IMO, more the nature of the web, and users often never actually logging out of sites, instead simply closing them assuming that will ALWAYS log them out.
  6. Google Shuts Down Goo.gl URL Shortening Service

    It depends on exactly what is being discussed here, a shortened url which has been shortened by using shortening service, as per the OP, won't be resolved to the true url by a mouseover, copy link etc, you'll only get the link provided by the service (which was posted by someone) which when clicked will be resolved by the shortening service to the original address by clicking it. Things like regular links or the "quote" in this forum used as an example aren't shortened via a service, they are more like regular html links in that they have a displayed name or tag for the url they reference, and these will take you to the location displayed when moused over. So I kind of agree with both, Nukecad and Andavari, as it's always best practice to check where the link will take you, but when it comes to url's shortened with a service, you don't know where it will take you other than to the shortening service then on to the magical mystery location, which could easily be malicious but may not be. And if you see a shortened link which leads to a link shortening service, odds are even greater that it's a location you probably wouldn't go to of you're own volition. Bottom line is I don't like shortening services, they seem kind of unnecessary considering these days you can just put in a regular link with a tag to display in a post if you need a link to appear short, and if you can't then it's probably an archaic site. I have no idea about twitter, but I'd imagine you could do it this way too.
  7. Windows 10 Spring Creators Update.

    Thought I was going crazy for a minute as I could have sworn I'd been using the registry address bar longer than that. Seems I wasn't, the article has an update as it was the original creators update (i.e. November 2017) it was added, but it's one of those simple features that really should have been done even earlier than that IMO. Also to revisit my prior post here, my system freeze when gaming issues have been resolved. Not 100% sure what changed to fix it, I suspect it was HWiNFO which I use to monitor temps etc as others seemed to be experiencing similar things when used in combination with latest (at the time) Nvidia drivers and both have had updates since then, so that's my best guess as to the real cause. I'm actually looking forward to the next update now, hoping that tabbed window/workspace feature MS have apparently been working on for the last 2 updates makes the cut. I forget exactly what they call it, but essentially it's meant to allow windows to be grouped in a single window and represented with tabs in that window. I don't care so much for having different windows grouped but I do hope it means I can just use explorer tabbed without relying on a 3rd party file explorer or explorer add-on to achieve it.
  8. One thing I've noticed with some of these is they're occasionally used/created by add-on's which use them to store custom settings. This naturally doesn't account for all of them and only a few add-ons seem to do it this way, (it probably depends on the browser used too, I've only noticed this scenario with Firefox).
  9. Microsoft Edge

    Hi PaRi, This is more an edge/windows issue than a ccleaner one, for details on reasoning and some steps to try to eradicate this behavior, have a read of this thread: https://forum.piriform.com/topic/51788-edge-browser-always-seems-open/
  10. Windows 10 Spring Creators Update.

    Hopefully the .48 update fixes it. I had kind of similar issue where playing a game (which I play a lot and never had problems before 1803 feature update) after some random time, the screen would just lock up in the game, and it couldn't recover. Could access the other screen with the mouse, do alt-tabs etc and other already open programs seemed to respond & work fine, but wouldn't close & nothing new could be opened either. Couldn't open task-manager to kill the locked game, and while I could access the start menu and select things, where upon the start menu would close and the drive would start to "try" to load something, nothing actually worked, so couldn't logout, reboot, sleep etc, and also couldn't sleep via power button on pc, only solution was to do a hard-reset . I'd read others had similar issues, (in chrome mainly) and a suggested workaround was to hit Win+Ctrl+Shift+b which resets the graphics driver, only on my system it wouldn't work once the problem occurred, the hotkey itself would work prior to the problem showing up, but after the problem had occurred, the hotkey would also make inputs non responsive after doing it, essentially creating a total system freeze. Anyway it didn't happen last night after installing .48 so fingers crossed. Some other much smaller issues I had on installing the original update was the secondary monitor lost its color profile settings, which had to be re-enabled, naturally it also decided I wanted the Photo Viewer as my default image program again, and a another one which may become a nuisance and is still there is the Feedback Frequency setting in privacy -> Diagnostics & Feedback, won't let me change it from Automatically ask for feedback and tells me the Windows Insider Programme manages this option, despite the fact I've never signed up for the Insider Programme. (I've read this last one is kind of common).
  11. Edge Browser always seems open

    Hi again, arejfour, It suddenly dawned on me there might be a really simple way to fix this, assuming you haven't tried it already. Open "settings" then go to Privacy, and then "Background Apps", and scroll down the list and make sure the entry for "Microsoft Edge" is in the off position, if not make it so. Just figured I'd mention it in case you haven't tried it already.
  12. Edge Browser always seems open

    Just thought I'd chime in here. To try and explain, what can happen with the UWP apps (aka retro, or MS store apps) is that windows treats them similarly to how a phone treats apps, in that they don't always close like a desktop app does. Instead when they close they essentially disappear and instead of "unloading" completely they are moved to the background as a "suspended" process. You can't see these types of processes in task manager, but you can see them in something like Sysinternals Process Viewer. I suspect this is what's happening with edge, and CCleaner is seeing it as open, while you think it's closed but it's actually suspended so kind of both. The other issue is these apps can start suspended. One scenario is when you shut down windows, and you have the fast boot option active (which it is default) when the computer shuts down, it doesn't completely shut down instead it goes into a kind of uber-hibernation. When it restarts, if edge was running (suspended) it will be again. Perhaps disabling the fast start option in power settings will help but it may not. Another One scenario I can think of is due to your prefetch settings. Edge may have made it into your prefetch folder and as a result to speed up start times it loads it suspended meaning you don't have to open it for it to "start". Another scenario is there is a setting in the windows registry called EnableActiveProbing, which if set to 1 may cause the browser to start on log in, I'd probably start with this one as it's simpler and will limit the changes to the browser only. In either scenario you'll have to change settings in the registry using regedit.exe, so if you're not sure about doing things like this, search the web, for instructions, and backup your registry, it is simple to do IMO, but you should be aware that doing it wrong can result in heartache (unless you enjoy re-installing windows). EnableActiveProbing is in the "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NlaSvc\Parameters\Internet" and can be 1 or 0. Essentially 1 is enabed 0 is disabled. Regarding the prefetch folder, it has a bunch of *.pf files, and the files themselves are safe to delete (not the folder though) and ccleaner may be able to do this part by clearing "Old Prefetch Data" except it may be missed as it may not be considered Old. The issue is windows restricts access to this folder by default, and even if you delete the relevant files (they are easy to identify, they look like "[name of program] [some random number].pf") it could come back (i.e be re-cached) as you'd also need to alter the settings for prefetch. As far as I'm aware you can only alter the prefetch settings within the registry so it would mean using regedit.exe to alter the "Enable SuperFetch" key. The "Enable SuperFetch" setting is in the "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters" key and needs a value of 0-3, where:0: Disable SuperFetch 1: Cache applications only 2: Cache boot files only 3: Cache everything (default) For your scenario, a value of 2 or 0 would work but I'd recommend 2 over 0, and like I mentioned before, I'd try the EnableActiveProbing setting first before delving into this part.
  13. Tracking files not cleared?

    Ok I was going to answer that these tracking files were likely what is often called "usage tracks" or "usage tracking files", of which there are plenty that have nothing to do with cookies or the internet, and are locally created. Things like the stuff that appears in jump-lists, recently opened sections, and explorers recent files, for example. However, I ran a test (i.e I cleaned only the System temporary files entry) as it dawned on me I haven't done a clean since this new "results" display was implemented, and that answer was simply wrong. I think the naming convention has very little to do with logic here. For some bizarre reason with this new summary screen, they seemingly decided to call all files removed tracking files, while the junk section is simply the size of all the files removed and are labeled unnecessary, which, well that last bit at least makes sense. The point is, the number of "tracking files" removed seems to correlate with simply the total number of files removed, they may or may not be tracking files in any real sense of the word, other than I suppose if you stretch logic one could make the argument that all files are tracking since they happen to show something about your computer & potentially you. I do think it's a terrible idea to label them this way, but essentially it's just a scummy way of saying total files removed. I say scummy because in my mind, it reeks of some warped marketing idea to attempt to create FUD (Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt), and is the sort of thing I'd expect from many PUP's (Potentially Unwanted Programs) which use scare tactics, to get you to buy/install their software, but for reasons unknown to me they decided to go this way with ccleaner, and I'll admit it doesn't sit well with me. TLDR - "Tracking Files Removed" seems to be the new marketing buzzword for "Files Removed".
  14. I'm not sure about the cookies you listed in this post, however in a different post you asked about the partially blacked out hex string cookie. With regard to the hex cookie, it's most likely the settings for an add-on you have installed. Which add-on I don't know but if you delete the cookie, it will come back however one of your add-ons will revert to it's default settings, meaning you will have to change the settings again, assuming you actually changed them from default in the first place. You should be able to find it under "c:\users\<user_name>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<profile_folder>\storage\" (where <user_name> is your user & <profile_folder> is the relevant firefox profile). Within the above folder, there will be three sub-folders, (default, permanent & temporary), within one of these sub-folders, in another folder, named "moz-extension+++<hex_string>" will be the data stored for the relevant extension. This may help you determine what the extension is without using trial and error, but also may not, there a several files in this folder, I suspect the cookie aspect being picked up is in a *.sqlite file in another ("idb") sub-folder. With regard to the other cookies you mentioned perhaps they are also part of an extension/add-on ? I have no idea. You should do what Nergal suggested above and select the cookie in ccleaner and see exactly what shows up underneath the box listing the cookies. It could be that they are cookies for internet explorer, or thunderbird (if you use it), or something else. I know you said you don't use any other browser but that doesn't matter as Windows & other apps may and often use another browser (eg IE) or it's components for some things which can result in cookies for a browser you never use yourself.
  15. User Account Control pop up at sign in

    Do you get the UAC running CCleaner without monitoring enabled ?. I don't actually use the monitoring aspect of CCleaner, so I'm not 100% familiar with it but, I assume it is something to do with that setting, and it must alter the way CCleaner is launched. Anyway not really sure, I misread your post and thought you were talking about CCleaner itself, and kind of missed the relevance of the monitoring option. There is possibly another way to bypass UAC by using the MS application compatibility toolkit, (details: https://www.ghacks.net/2010/07/08/get-rid-of-uac-prompts-with-microsofts-application-compatibility-toolkit/), but to be honest, I have no idea if it will work for this case, it's more an option if you want to give it a try. FYI this is completely different to (and more involved than) the suggestion above detailing properties/compatibility tab run as admin check-box, that setting is never going to bypass UAC, only make it show (as Nergal said above).