nukecad
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13 hours ago, SumGuy said:
You're right, the entries are for extensions, but they aren't detected in previous CCleaner versions, so it's natural to be curious of their reoccurring presence after an update.
Those Cookie file sizes are 0 KB before AND after being cleaned, even after running hundreds of browser tabs. Plenty of other 0 KB files also appear in the "cleaned" list that don't reappear, so we really can't tell if anything's actually being cleaned at all - containers or not...
Another curious thing is that after cleaning with CCleaner v6.22, and then immediately running the portable CCleaner v6.21, I have 85 Chrome Internet Cache files that remain in the analysis that don't show in v6.22.
Seems off to me.
As per lmacri;s post above, they are the browsers own built in 'extensions', not the same thing as the user added extensions/add-ons.
I suspect that they are 'containers', always there and empty unless something is put into them, I don't use Edge Chromium at all but still see them for Edge.
The cleaning has been updated in 6.22, but are your cleaning settings exactly the same when using 6.21 portable?
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It looks to me that it's arisen from a snipet of code that had been ported in for a different purpose, but hasn't been cleared of a 'make an ini' instruction.
In which case it would make the ini and a folder to put it in, but it's then just sat there with nothing referencing it or trying to access it.
Programme developers often share code snippets with one another, why write new code for a job if someone has already written something that does the same job.
(Of course you are supposed to check what you have borrowed, in case it also includes things that you don't want/need - like an instruction to make an ini).If you want to then you could make that Norton folder an 'Incude' in Custom Clean so that it will get removed whenever you run Custom Clean.
Although it may. probably will, come back again until the CCleaner devs clean up that code snippet and remove the instruction to make one. -
Try doing them one at a time - and leave Office until the last, apparently that's quite a large update.
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Good to hear you seem to have it sorted out.
You may have actually purchased 2 licence keys now. (Just not been sent one of them because there was no email to send it to).
I will flag this up to the staff about the upgrade link not asking for your email, that is definitely odd.
So odd that I would also keep a close eye on your card account for a while, just in case.
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On the issue of the Norton folder being created.
I've now had it confirmed that this is - "definitely not intended" - and the developers are investigating.
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Yes browsers have their own extensions for certain functions, which are not the same as user installed extensions/add-ons so don't show in that list in the browser.
There is another thread today about those particular ones suddenly showing up as empty when running Custom Clean, and always showing up everytime as zero bytes.
I'm not sure if it is changes to CCleaner or to Chrome and Chromium based browsers (particularly Edge) that has caused them to start showing up.My suspicion is that they are actually 'cookie containers', and empty until cookies are put in them.
Similar to the 'cookie jars' that Firefox started using a while back, but not quite the same. -
2 hours ago, CJUK said:
Today I attempted to upgrade to the Pro version. I completed all the credit card details, but have no idea how CCleaner knows who I am. I wasn't asked for an email address.
I agree that doesn't sound right.
How were you doing this?
Had you clicked Upgrade within CCleaner itself?
Or was it from a pop-up?
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Thanks for the replies.
That does look like the changes made to the Software Updating then.
It's probably a particular app that you are all using that wasn't included in the software updater before but is included now.
It could be more that one app that is giving the issue.In which case it's a matter of identifying the problematic app(s) and fixing the issue(s) or simply removing it/them from the list of apps to check.
As I said above the Staff are reading this thread, so will be working on it.
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Well if they are zero bytes then they are empty - In other words they have been cleaned.
They are probably cookie 'containers' where cookies will be put when there are some.
'Clean' doesn't mean 'Delete'. - You don't have to throw a file cabinet away to get rid of the files in there.
If you right click on one of them and select "View all files" it will show you just what the files are.
I suspect that they will be associated with extensions. (browser internal extensions, not your own user add-ons), like these from Edge on this laptop:
I don't use Edge so those should usually be empty anyway.
PS. Have a read of the second part of the link in my signature below this post 'Files that come back after cleaning'.
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Thanks,
let's see what the others report to see if there is anything in common as to why it isn't working for some of you.
PS. The CCleaner staff are aware of this issue and are looking into it, the more information people can give helps.
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4 minutes ago, econig said:
It comes up just after you hit the health check button- it goes through the health check then the resolve issues screen comes on and nothing happens.
So it's not even getting as far as the 'Scan' button for you, or do you mean after the scan?
A couple more questions:
Are you on Windows 10 or 11?
Are you using an Antivirus other than Windows Security/Defender?
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That's usually because the browser or an add-on is still running in the background after closing.
CCleaner should ask you if you want to close the browser if it's still running in the background, but you may have told it not to show you the message.
Going to Options>Advanced and clicking on "Restore default settings" should cause that message to be displayed again rather the Custom Clean just 'Skipping' clearing the browser.
Of course remember that doing that will also remove any other customisation that you had put in place, so you will have to set those up again.Ideally though most do not want a browser to keep running after you close it. so you have to go to the browsers settings and turn off that background running.
For Edge, to stop it from running in the background after closing, in the Edge settings, go to "system and performance" and turn off both "Startup boost" and "Continue running background extensions and apps when microsoft edge is closed."
Do similar in Chrome.
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What is it that each of you are you doing/seeing in Health Check immediately before seeing that 'Resolving Issues' screen?
If it was the software updating section then what software had it found to be updated?
@Two Dog Pete What software was/is it in the Software Updater that is not updating for you?
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The Performance Optimiser task has been there a while, it's needed for the Performance Optimiser to work.
If you are not using Performance Optimiser then the task doesn't do anything.I'm also seeing that Norton folder.
My guess is that it's to do with the changes to the Software and Driver updaters, whether it should be there or not is another question.
CCleaner and Norton are now part of the same group of companies and do share software development.
It may be being created by a bit of Norton code that has been inadvertently carried over.I'll see if I can find out any more about it.
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'0x6 handle is invalid' is a Windows error code. Something is stopping Windows from fetching/applying the update.
Windows Updates, such as the monthly Patch Tuesday updates, can sometimes cause 0x6 errors.
(It was the March Patch Tuesday this week).Others seeing that error in the past have had success with the following:
Try downloading the 'Slim' installer from here and double clicking it to install the new CCleaner version.
Make sure that your current CCleaner is not running before installing the new one. (Check in Task Manager and if it's running then 'End Task').
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No problem, I just happened to be here when you posted, I'll pop back later to see how you got on.
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Personally I would end those stuck tasks using Task Manager and/or "Restart" the computer.
Then try the install again
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Just try using the Slim installer. (I've just run it here to update mine to v6.22).
Do the first run of CCleaner from the installer itself (that can sometimes help with Windows Standard User accounts):
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Are you having a problem installing or is it simply not opening after the install?
The usual questions:
What Windows version are you on?
If it isn't Defender then what Antivirus are you using, and what version is it at?One more, are you using an Administrator account or a Standard user?
If it's a problem installing then try using the 'Slim' installer which you can download from here (3rd one down): https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/builds
PS. You don't need to uninstall first, just run the installer.
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"People like me" are users like yourself. I do not work for CCleaner.
As for Windows 7 being end of life: https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-7-support-ended-on-january-14-2020-b75d4580-2cc7-895a-2c9c-1466d9a53962
Are you using a buisness computer? As far as I am aware the only security updates included in todays (12th March 2024) Patch Tuesday updates for any Win7 version were for those with Windows Embedded Standard 7 on the 4th year of Extended Security Updates.
https://www.ghacks.net/2024/03/12/overview-of-the-march-2024-windows-security-updates/ -
Well you have to remember that Windows 7 is End-of-Life and no longer supported, most new apps and updates will not even consider it.
Most new software/versions will no longer be tested with Win7, you can't really expect software developers to cater for what is an officially obsolete Windows version.
(If it is tested then it's probably just a case of 'will it run at all on Win7? and nothing more").So as with any old OS and new or updated software it's 'use/try at your own risk'.
I've got an old 98SE machine that I use occasionally, I wouldn't even dream of trying to update anything that's on there or install any new software. -
You can try Options>Advanced>Restore Default Settings to see if that will clear it and start asking you again.
The only way I've done similar in the past, after ticking the 'Do not show again' then wanting it back, has beeen to uninstall/reinstall CCleaner.
(At that time there wasn't a 'Restore Default Settings' button available).However just closing Firefox normally is enough to allow CCleaner to clean it without skipping.
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3 hours ago, Froody said:
I'm running Recuva on windows 10, truing to recover from a kindle fire so ssd on a usb. It wont tell me what format its on though. And the files were deleted by accident
Sorry, but Recuva works with Windows file formats.
The file format of the Kindle Fire OS (KF8 / AWZ3 format) is not a supported format for Recuva.
Which explains why Recuva can't see it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindle_File_FormatA quick google of "how to recover deleted files from kindle fire" will give you a few apps and things to try.
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It will only clear what you tell it to clear.
If you want to be doubly sure then make a backup of your logins/passwords in Firefox, its easy to do.
Firefox menu>Passwords>3-dots menu>Export passwords.Or go into each of the other browsers and delete your passwords there rather than using CCleaner to do it.
PS. Personally if I didn't trust a software, any software, to do what I told it to and nothing else (or didn't know how to use it properly) then I'd stop using it.
CCleaner and Norton Advanced Issues
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Different cleaners do different things, and clean different things.
Whilst no Registry Cleaner can be considered totally safe to use regularly, the one in CCleaner is considered 'mild' when compared to others because it is not as agressive in what it cleans.
Even then regular use of CCleaners Registry Cleaner should be avoided.
Registry cleaning is an advanced tool sometimes used when trying to fix an already broken machine.
Using it regularly on a machine that isn't broken runs the risk of breaking something, or even bricking the whole machine, - you will find posts in this forum where exactly that has happened.
Registry cleaning will not make your machine run any faster, or any 'better', and the space it may save is only a few KB.
Windows 10/11 changes the registry too often to make using any registry cleaner totally safe.
For the official Piriform advice on using the CCleaner Registry Cleaner see this: https://community.ccleaner.com/topic/59952-i-get-a-registry-error-on-ccleaner-on-windows-10-i-have-scanned-5-times/?tab=comments#comment-326804
Here is Microsofts' advice on using any Registry Cleaner:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/2563254/microsoft-support-policy-for-the-use-of-registry-cleaning-utilities