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  1. Nergal: thanks for your reply. I'm only curious as to possible options for "ID=xxxx" and "LangRef=xxxx" because, while working on the custom Opera cleaning options, I noticed that if I delete "ID=xxxx" and-or "LangRef=xxxx" (I didn't dig too deeply on variations) from an entry then odd things, such as a change in category order under a heading, occur. Being me I just wanted to play around with the different numbers ("xxxx" options) to further customize my custom Opera cleaning, but I guess if the possible number codes for "ID=xxxx" and "LangRef=xxxx" aren't findable then that'll just have to satisfy my brain itch ;) .

  2. Alan_B: thank you again very much for sharing from you bag of tricks :lol: .

     

    Nergal: I hope you had a good break :D , and thanks for explaining a patch; I'll delve deeper with Google now that I've an idea. And my only remaining question is what are the available options for "ID=xxxx" and "LangRef=xxxx" in a winapp2.ini file?

  3. Alan_B: Geez, I was proud that I actually thought to open every site in my default Opera install that I ever log into, then log into each of those sites, then exit my default Opera install and open CCleaner to save all the applicable cookies, then run CCleaner, then copy the resultant default-install-saved-cookies-only cookies4.dat file into a conveniently located folder (after making a backup copy) in my custom Opera install so that I can copy-and-paste this "Alan_B_Perfect ©" cookies4.dat file to its required location in my custom Opera install after each running of CCleaner to replace the just deleted cookies4.dat file. I'll have to re-read your last post and peruse the links, but I'm sure the ideas are good and thanks again :) .

     

    EDIT: After reading the links that Alan_B so kindly provided, and several failed attempts at creating a hard link via the command prompt, I bumped into this:

     

    SymbolicLinkCreatorPortable1.1.0.5

     

    and was able to very quickly create a hard link (pretty cool, that) to my default Opera install's cookies4.dat file in its respective location in my custom Opera install. And it works perfectly: with "Cookies" ticked in CCleaner for my default Opera install and unticked for my custom Opera install (because I had to settle for deleting the cookies4.dat file in the custom winapp2.ini), saved cookies are saved and unwanted cookies are deleted for both Opera installations. Now to keep trying to find possible options for "ID=xxxx" and "LangRef=xxxx"...

  4. Winapp2.ini: I found the following information about how Opera manages cookies, and snipped a shot of Opera's Cookie Manager as well (see attachment):

     

    "Manage cookies: Displays your Server Manager, which lists all the domains you currently have cookies from. You can add new domains, delete the domains you do not wish to keep cookies from, and edit cookie settings specifically for each server."

     

     

    Alan_B: remind me to never play chess with you :P . A freshly cleaned copy of my default Opera install's cookies4.dat file did work perfectly when substituted for my custom Opera install's cookies4.dat file; that is, after the substitution, any site into which I'm automatically logged when visiting in my default Opera install I was also automatically logged into when visiting in my custom Opera install. While a bit of a workaround, it's still better than nothing. And thank you very much.

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  5. Alan_B: I just tried AptDiff but it couldn't open a .dat file; thanks for the idea, though :) . After more searching for information I don't foresee being able to filter which cookies are deleted in my custom Opera install--at least until Opera changes the way it stores cookies--but it's not such a big deal since I (hope I) shouldn't need to utilize the custom install too often (it's for slow connections). I still can't find any list of possible "ID=xxxx" and "LangRef=xxxx" for a winapp2.ini file, though.

  6. Googling for answers I bumped into this in Opera's knowledge base (emphasis is mine):

     

     

    Opera supports the exact same format for setting cookies as Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox. This means that Opera will be able to accept all cookies that work with these browsers. Cookies are stored in the file named cookies4.dat located in the user's Opera profile folder (on Linux known as .opera, on Macintosh called Opera Preferences). It is not possible to edit the file cookies4.dat by hand in order to remove unwanted cookies from your hard drive, but you can use Opera's server manager (go to Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Cookies, click "Manage cookies").

     

    Web developers should note that Opera does not store cookies sent from files loaded with the "file://" protocol, that is, local files on your hard disk. The reason is that such cookies are considered a privacy risk.

     

     

    I take this to mean that there's no way I can add a "Cookies to Keep" list to the custom Opera cleaning options, unless someone knows differently. Now to figure out "ID=xxxx" and "LangRef=xxxx" options...

  7. Alan_B: thanks for your reply. I did notice the list of "LangSecRef" in the winapp2.ini file but was hoping for a list of "ID=xxxx" and "LangRef=xxxx" so that I could further customize my custom entries. I Googled all word combinations that I could imagine but came up with no useful information, although I image it exists somewhere. I'll keep trying. As for the cookies, I think that I wasn't lucid enough in my original question. While I'm easily able to keep the cookies of my choice (sites where I log in, etc.) in my default Opera install by going to Options/Cookies in CCleaner and selecting accordingly, when using your earlier advice to find exactly which files-folders CCleaner deletes I discovered that, unlike the other categories, viewing the detailed results of the default Opera install's "Cookies" analysis doesn't show a file path (see attachment). Thus, I was forced to settle for deleting the entire cookies file, "C:\Users\Me\AppData\Roaming\Opera\10.63\cookies4.dat", in my custom Opera install, which unfortunately means that even the cookies on my "Cookies to Keep" list are deleted. I did, however, notice that the ccleaner.ini file has a list "CookiesToSave=aaaa.com|bbbb.org|cccc.xxx|..." and was wondering if I could somehow incorporate it into my custom winapp2.ini "Cookies" entry so that the cookies of my choice aren't deleted in my custom Opera install. Basically, I was able to figure out how to exclude-include files within a folder while creating my custom winapp2.ini file, but I can't figure out how to exclude-include specific bits of a file, in this case the cookies4.dat file. Any help would be much appreciated.

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  8. Sorry to pester, but is there a respectful way to have my final 2 questions answered (I think that they were lost in the shuffle)?

     

    2) Is it possible to somehow add the list of saved cookies in my ccleaner.ini file to the above? That is, can I somehow incorporate 
    the list of saved cookies in my ccleaner.ini file to the above without having to add them individually to Options/Exclude?
    
    3) Where can I find a list of usable ID's and LangRef's for the winapp2.ini file? That is, I would like to know exactly what the 
    options are for "ID=xxxx" and "LangRef=xxxx" in the winapp2.ini file so that I can further customize the above.
    

     

    I realize that they're technically off topic, so I'm not sure if I should start a new thread. Regardless, many thanks to all the kind people who helped me solve my original dilemma; I really appreciate your help :) .

  9. Nergal: thank you for answering one of my questions, and thank you very much for recommending WinMerge :) . I just finished downloading the portable version and setting it up so that as soon as I update my winapp2.ini file (with CCEnhancer) I can open WinMerge, press a couple of buttons, and have an updated winapp2.ini file with the custom embedded cleaning options copied to it. The next best thing to a winapp3.ini, I reckon.

  10. After some more time spent staring at my laptop screen I lucked into the knowledge that, while "%AppData%\..." covers roaming AppData, "%LocalAppData%\..." covers, well, local AppData. Yep, seems pretty obvious now. That discovery plus a double-checking of my edited embedded cleaning options against the default Opera install--I found a couple of mistakes and corrected them--has left this for a final version:

     

    [Opera Custom - Internet Cache*]
    ID=2006
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3161
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%LocalAppData%\Opera\10.63\cache|*.*|RECURSE
    FileKey2=%LocalAppData%\Opera\10.63\opcache|*.*|RECURSE
    
    [Opera Custom - Internet History*]
    ID=2007
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3162
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%LocalAppData%\Opera\10.63\vps|*.*|RECURSE
    FileKey2=%AppData%\Opera\10.63|download.dat
    FileKey3=%AppData%\Opera\10.63|global_history.dat
    FileKey4=%AppData%\Opera\10.63|vlink4.dat
    
    [Opera Custom - Cookies*]
    ID=2008
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3102
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63|cookies4.dat
    
    [Opera Custom - Recently Typed URLs*]
    ID=2228
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3104
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63|typed_history.xml
    
    [Opera Custom - Last Download Location*]
    ID=2223
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3108
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    SpecialKey1=N_OPERA_LAST_DOWNLOAD_LOCATION
    
    [Opera Custom - Session*]
    ID=2225
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3167
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\sessions|autosave.win
    FileKey2=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\sessions|autosave.win.bak
    
    [Opera Custom - Website Icons*]
    ID=2149
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3166
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%LocalAppData%\Opera\10.63\icons|*.*
    
    [Opera Custom - Saved Passwords*]
    ID=2182
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3109
    WarningRef=3202
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63|wand.dat
    
    [Opera Custom More*]
    LangSecRef=3028
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    Default=False
    FileKey1=%LocalAppData%\Opera\10.63\icons|*.*|REMOVESELF
    FileKey2=%LocalAppData%\Opera\10.63\thumbnails|*.*|REMOVESELF
    FileKey3=%LocalAppData%\Opera\10.63\vps|*.*|REMOVESELF
    FileKey4=%LocalAppData%\Opera\10.63\temporary_downloads|*.*|
    REMOVESELF
    

     

    To use this for any install of Opera (although there would be no point in using it for a default install), just edit the DetectFile's and FileKey's to reflect your non-default Opera file paths. Please Note: every LangSecRef=3028 so that all the categories appear in CCleaner's interface under Safari to (for me at least) make things less confusing; if you want them to appear under Opera in CCleaner then simply change each LangSecRef to =3027. Also, I copied the category "Opera More*" from the original winapp2.ini file, renamed it "Opera Custom More*", pasted it at the end of the custom embedded cleaning options, and edited it to find my custom install of Opera and clean the same files-folders as it would in a default install. And, under the heading "Website Icons" in the default Opera install, CCleaner is able to automatically exclude bookmark icons; I was unable to emulate this so checking "Website Icons" in the custom Opera cleaning options will delete all website icons, including bookmark icons (which also happens if "Opera More*" or "Opera Custom More*" is ticked). In addition, under the heading "Cookies" in the default Opera install, CCleaner allows for manually selecting "Cookies to Keep" (in Options/Cookies); I was unable to emulate this (although I'm working on it) so checking "Cookies" in the custom Opera cleaning options will delete all cookies, including "Cookies to Keep". Finally, I never could figure out which file(s)-folders(s) CCleaner deletes in Opera by default under "Last Download Location" so that heading was never edited. Anyway, I hope that someone finds the above of use. I'm left with some questions, however, that I hope someone will answer:

     

    1) Is it possible to use the above as a separate .ini file (winapp3.ini, maybe?) so that every time I update my winapp2.ini file I don't have to copy-and-paste the above to the updated winapp2.ini? Answered: not possible.

     

    2) Is it possible to somehow add the list of saved cookies in my ccleaner.ini file to the above? That is, can I somehow incorporate the list of saved cookies in my ccleaner.ini file to the above without having to add them individually to Exclude? Answered: not possible, but there is a workaround (see Post #44).

     

    3) Where can I find a list of usable ID's and LangRef's for the winapp2.ini file? That is, I would like to know exactly what the options are for "ID=xxxx" and "LangRef=xxxx" in the winapp2.ini file so that I can further customize the above. I couldn't find an answer after extensive searching; if anyone does then please send me a message. Thanks.

     

    Thank you very much.

  11. OK, I'm now batting .594. It seems that my syntax was off on quite a few FileKeys; too many forward slashes, not enough pipes. Here are the edited embedded cleaning options as they presently stand:

     

     

    [Opera - Internet Cache*]
    ID=2006
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3161
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\cache|*.*|RECURSE
    FileKey2=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\opcache|*.*|RECURSE
    FileKey3=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\icons|*.*|RECURSE
    
    [Opera - Internet History*]
    ID=2007
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3162
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\vps|RECURSE
    FileKey2=%AppData%\Opera\10.63|download.dat
    FileKey3=%AppData%\Opera\10.63|global_history.dat
    FileKey4=%AppData%\Opera\10.63|vlink4.dat
    
    [Opera - Cookies*]
    ID=2008
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3102
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63|cookies4.dat
    
    [Opera - Recently Typed URLs*]
    ID=2228
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3104
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63|typed_history.xml
    
    [Opera - Last Download Location*]
    ID=2223
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3108
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    SpecialKey1=N_OPERA_LAST_DOWNLOAD_LOCATION
    
    [Opera - Session*]
    ID=2225
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3167
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\sessions|*.*
    
    [Opera - Website Icons*]
    ID=2149
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3166
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\icons|*.*
    FileKey2=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\icons\cache|*.*
    
    [Opera - Saved Passwords*]
    ID=2182
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3109
    WarningRef=3202
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63|wand.dat
    

     

     

    and here's a screen shot of a detailed CCleaner analysis of my custom install (which appears as Safari so as to minimize confusion with the default Opera install in the CCleaner interface):

     

     

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    Interestingly, all of the successfully populated files and folders--part of Internet History, Cookies, Recently Typed URLs, Session, and Saved Passwords--are located in "...AppData\Roaming\Opera\10.63" and all of the unsuccessfully populated files and folders--Internet Cache, part of Internet History, and Website Icons--are located in "...AppData\Local\Opera\10.63". Please, does anybody know why this is true?

  12. ...and my knowledge of adjusting Winapp2.ini is only enough to be dangerous ! !

     

     

    I can surely relate to that :lol: . Since I made a backup copy of the original winapp2.ini file, and I know from "reverse engineering" my default Opera install that the last file-folder in each FileKey is definitely what I want cleaned, I'll just keep playing with the syntax of every FileKey under every category (except "Sessions"; I'm batting .125 B) ) in the event that I get lucky. Who knows?

     

     

  13. Alan_B: you typed "All your screen shot of CCleaner shows is the summary, but does not show the actual files and paths." While this is true--and sorry if my last post wasn't clear--I did, using your previous suggestion, analyze and get details from my default (11.11) Opera installation to gather information on which files-folders ("actual files and paths") CCleaner cleans in Opera, then I used these discovered file-folder paths to edit the Opera embedded cleaning options template, which I then added to my CCleaner winapp2.ini file in the hope of cleaning my custom (10.63) Opera installation (which is installed in a completely different file path). My screen shot was only intended to show that my custom installation of Opera is recognized by CCleaner. However, as I typed in my last post, when I analyze each of these recognized headings only 1, "Sessions", actually shows any files to be cleaned, despite the fact that I've manually checked 6 of the other 7 (I never could get "Last Download Location" to populate) file-folder paths for cleanable data. To clarify, I've checked each install's corresponding files-folders and, while both the default (11.11) Opera install and the custom (10.63) Opera install have the same files-folders to be cleaned in their respective locations, only 1 of the custom install's 7 (8 including "Last Download Location") categories is recognized by CCleaner compared to 7 of 7 (8) for the default install. This, to me, indicates that either my attempt at editing the cleaning options template that I added to the winapp2.ini is incorrect or that having 2 versions of Opera installed on the same OS is an issue for CCleaner. I even tried to use the actual file path in the "FileKeyX=", as in "FileKeyX=ActualFilePath", but even this didn't work. And I can't for the life of me figure out why my edit of "Sessions" works but my other 7 edited categories don't. Also, although I don't need it for this problem, I do use voidtools portable version of Everything in place of the Windows 7 search; it's freeware at it's finest, just like CCleaner.

  14. Boy, that surely took longer than I'd imagined; I started with my morning coffee and ended with my evening beer. After backing up both Opera installations with Disco Stu's Opera Settings Import & Export Tool, I uninstalled them then reinstalled version 11.11 in it's default location, opened a few pages and downloaded a couple of files and saved a password, then I ran an analysis with CCleaner to make sure all was well. The analysis showed files under every Opera category except "Last Download Location" and, although I spent some time trying to remedy this, I never was able to adjust Opera's settings so that a CCleaner analysis indicated files to be cleaned under that heading. Guess I don't need those files cleaned. Next I reinstalled version 10.63 in it's own folder, "10.63", in "C:\Program Files (x86)", to keep it separate from 11.11's default install location, and attacked the winapp2.ini file using Alan_B's fine suggestion of "reverse engineering." The concept worked perfectly, as analyzing each separate Opera category then viewing it's detailed results allowed me to determine exactly which files and folders CCleaner cleans. Thus, one by one, I edited the 8 categories on the embedded cleaning options for Opera template that Winapp2.ini had so kindly supplied. Finally, after 3 cups of coffee, breakfast, lunch, and a handful of Carlsbergs, I had a custom winapp2.ini file which shows all 8 custom installation categories. Unfortunately, of the 8 categories shown only 1, "Sessions", shows any files for cleaning when analyzed, even though these files exist for 6 of the other 7 categories (still no "Last Download Location" files and I checked the others manually). Most likely my "syntax" is wrong on the winapp2.ini file, but it's also possible that having 2 versions of Opera installed on the same OS is an issue as, despite installing version 10.63 in it's own folder, its local and roaming AppData is automatically placed inside "C:\Users\Me\AppData\Local or Roaming\Opera\10.63". Also, for what it's worth, I uninstalled version 10.63 and reinstalled it in 3 different locations but no matter how far away I tried to keep it from version 11.11, its AppData was every time a subfolder of "C:\Users\Me\AppData\Local or Roaming\Opera", the default location for 11.11's AppData. Anyway, I've attached a clip of CCleaner's analysis and a copy of my attempted edits of Opera's embedded cleaning options in case someone more knowledgable than I spots a problem. Please Note: To make things less confusing on the CCleaner interface I used the LangSecRef for Safari; thus, my custom Opera install, version 10.63, shows as Safari on CCleaner. Thanks for any(more) help; I really appreciate it.P.S.--Sorry I don't know how to attach the scrolling window for the embedded cleaning options.

     

    Edit: thanks to hazelnut's following post I've that scroll-thingy figured out. Thank you very much, hazelnut :D .

     

    [Opera - Internet Cache*]
    ID=2006
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3161
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\Opera-10.63\cache|*.*|RECURSE
    FileKey2=%AppData%\Opera\Opera-10.63\opcache|*.*|RECURSE
    FileKey3=%AppData%\Opera\Opera-10.63\icons|*.*|RECURSE
    
    [Opera - Internet History*]
    ID=2007
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3162
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\Opera-10.63\vps|RECURSE
    FileKey2=%AppData%\Opera\Opera-10.63\download.dat
    FileKey3=%AppData%\Opera\Opera-10.63\global_history.dat
    FileKey4=%AppData%\Opera\Opera-10.63\vlink4.dat
    
    [Opera - Cookies*]
    ID=2008
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3102
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\cookies4.dat
    
    [Opera - Recently Typed URLs*]
    ID=2228
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3104
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\Opera-10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\typed_history.xml
    
    [Opera - Last Download Location*]
    ID=2223
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3108
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    SpecialKey1=N_OPERA_LAST_DOWNLOAD_LOCATION
    
    [Opera - Session*]
    ID=2225
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3167
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\sessions|*.*
    
    [Opera - Website Icons*]
    ID=2149
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3166
    Default=True
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\icons|*.*
    
    [Opera - Saved Passwords*]
    ID=2182
    LangSecRef=3028
    LangRef=3109
    WarningRef=3202
    DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\10.63\Opera.exe
    FileKey1=%AppData%\Opera\10.63\wand.dat
    
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  15. Alan_B: thank you very much for an excellent idea. Sadly, I'd actually planned on reinstalling 11.11 in the default location--with 10.63 remaining in it's custom location for use on slower networks--after I'd sorted out the winapp2.ini; the thought of doing it first and using it for comparison never even crossed my mind. After finishing this reply I'll put my morning coffee to good use and apply your genius post-haste.

     

    Winapp2.ini and hazelnut: thanks for pointing me in the right direction. In Windows 7 the location of Opera's cache is "C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Opera\cache" and, as soon as I can figure them all out, I'll post the locations of the other files in case they're of use to anyone else.

  16. I started to attack the issue of changing all the "SpecialKey1"s to FileKeys but immediately encountered the fact that I'm not exactly sure where the files-folders that correspond to "N_OPERA_CACHE", "N_OPERA_HISTORY", "N_OPERA_COOKIES", "N_OPERA_RECENTLY_TYPED_URLS", "N_OPERA_LAST_DOWNLOAD_LOCATION", "N_OPERA_PASSWORD", "N_OPERA_SESSION", and "N_OPERA_WEBSITE_ICONS" reside. Reckoning that they're in some combination of "C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera\...", "C:\Users\Me\AppData\Local\Opera\..." and "C:\Users\Me\AppData\Roaming\Opera\..." I ventured a look. A couple seem obvious, like "C:\Users\Me\AppData\Roaming\Opera\...sessions" but most of them aren't quite as clear (like "N_OPERA_RECENTLY_TYPED_URLS"). Oh Great Winapp2.ini: you wouldn't happen to have a list of the corresponding files-folders, would you? If not, a nudge in the right directions would be much appreciated (as is all your kind help to this point). In the meantime I put Google to use.

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