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Have to say that's still pretty impressive!

Absolutely, but it's also the reliance upon the lack of knowledge and experience of so many users that half of vendors that peddle 'tuning software' rely on. The trouble is, as ident says, the average PC user doesn't appreciate what a service is, never mind which ones are appropriate to disable. For me there isn't that much of a performance gain in disabling services ... there are bigger advantages to be had from a security point of view. Mentioned on these forums many times, Black Viper is one site that offers reasonable advice on services ... http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm ... but you still reasonably need able to interpret what you're reading.

Oh for goodness sake, since when has Autoruns been a 'crap cleaner' anyway ... and since when is it supposed to be a tool for holding anyone's hand? It's one of the finest tools if it's type but it has nothing to do with the supposed subject of that article. Out of those three ccleaner is the only one specifically aimed at 'crap cleaning' anyway. No disrespect to the OP ... but the article is a load of tosh.

It's interesting that on the recuva download page (or ccleaner etc) filehippo is listed as the first download link, and the 'Alternative Download' link is actually the piriform site. Also the filehippo site has all of the old versions and the MD5 hashes ... whereas the version history is on the piriform site ... all a bit mixed-up really. I agree that it would be helpful to show latest versions to support particular OSs somewhere prominent on the piriform download pages, even if you have to go to filehippo for the download. However, post-Win98/WinMe I'm guessing that most of the piriform software is backwards-compatible. Anyone out there still running Win 95 ... Win 3.1 ?

Blimey ... without re-reading the rest of the thread I saw that and had visions of you digging out an old Pascal compiler Nice work Pascal et al.

Hi Ronnie. With reference to the $Ntuninstall folders, see this article ... http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Hotfix_backup.htm They take up a lot of space ... do you need it though? Personally I'd only be bothered to delete them if I was really stuffed for hard disk space. But I'd take a copy first

Ah well, we'll just have to rely on Dr Who to save us then.

Interesting last post; thanks. Okay, semantics ... maybe not misleading but perhaps devious! I guess the 'install the toolbar so that you can run ccleaner fom your browser' is the flannel bit ... the excuse to have it as an option, if you like. And yes, having this ticked by default doesn't help matters ... as you say it' a money-spinner. I suppose the flip-side to this is that ccleaner is a free product, as is a lot of software where there's a toolbar 'thrown in'. I applaud your ethical stance on this, but if it makes the difference between Piriform carrying on or folding, I'd rather see this situation and practice careful installing than have to fork out for the products in the first place (and that's not an aversion to paid-for software ... these just aren't products that I'd buy). But many, many people benefit from the fact that these products are freeware. I do agree it's not quite so fair on the unwary or less technically able though. I suppose my biggest concern about how this is implemented is that uninstalling ccleaner doesn't uninstall the toolbar ... especially if there isn't a separate toolbar uninstaller. But at the end of the day there's no wool being pulled over our eyes. The toolbar is clearly listed (I wouldn't say buried) at the end of just half-a-dozen options on the install page (and of course it's in the license agreement). I guess it just reinforces to everyone that we do need to read this stuff with a little care ... even for products we're familiar with. Anyway, happy you got it uninstalled, and out of interest I'd be interested in a reference to the removal procedure ... it might help others.

Even NASA is having a say !

Sorry you're having problems alexeck. Though whilst I'm no fan of toolbars 'offered' like this, I'm struggling to see how, to an experienced user, a check-box option that starts 'Add CCleaner Yahoo! toolbar ...' is misleading. I know you've looked, but they do reckon you should be able to do it from the toolbar itself ... toolbar version 6, toolbar version 7. I don't know what toolbar version ccleaner uses. But that's just from a quick Google ... there seem to be many other suggestions. ETA: Just noticed that hazelnut's link is for version 8, which I presume is the one bundled with ccleaner if it's the latest one. What browser are you trying to remove it from; IE7/8, Firefox?

As hazelnut says, it's tried and tested! There are lots of bits of software that do the same thing; Recuva is the best free tool I've used. The thing is, the longer you spend debating the issue but still using your computer, the greater the chances of you overwriting your data (e.g. with temporary files created by browsing internet web pages!). Running Recuva isn't going to harm your system at all and it's not going to decrease your chances of success either. The sooner you do it the better! To reduce the chances of your Recuva download/install overwriting your deleted files, you should preferably install Recuva on a different drive to the one your deleted files were on. So if you only have a C: drive, download and install Recuva onto a USB stick. If your files were on the C: drive but you have a D: drive as well, download and install Recuva to your D: drive. For now, uncheck all of the options on the 'Install options' page to minimise the writes to your C: drive.

Good link rridgely! ... Bookmarked for future reference. I'd be interested in hearing how people get on with this method

A couple of suggestions for additional information (now removed from yesterday's thread): 'Network Adapters' category (including current IP, MAC, gateway, DNS servers etc) Drive volume enumeration (drive letter, file system, size/free/used) Any RAID information under Hard Drives (if not there already - I haven't got access to my RAID PC at the mo.) BIOS settings (in addition to existing info) USB devices

Try Secunia's 'Personnal Software Inspector', which tells you the versions of installed software and which ones are out of date. Just beware that it configures to run at start up by default ... you can turn that off.

Quite. It was interesting to see Collider's post ... a brand new build virtually. And then there's the sound-card thing ... weird! Edited to add ... I love filehippo's version history ... makes it so much easier if you want to go back a notch or two.

Whatever it is, it's more complicated than just an OS issue ... and you'd expect that to have stood out a mile in testing. This netbook is XP Home SP3 and 1.15 installs and runs just fine. I also regressed and did a 1.14 to 1.15 upgrade - which was fine too.

Very nice Kind of a concise summary of some of the msinfo32.exe information ... but better looking and more readable Where do you want suggestions/bugs/feedback?

Prefer this link myself ... that gammon is very good for the taste buds

Well they were just telling porkies.

10 days? Jeez you're getting value for money! Hang in there ... can't go on much longer

It's getting that way for me. I like Avira, I really do; but it's been ridiculous lately. I'll wait to see if addressing the apparent IPV6 issue sorts things out.

Indeed ... similar result though

... waits for hazelnut ...

I don't use much of Karen's software; mostly because I have other stuff that does similar things. But she does have a a lot of useful stuff under one roof. And there's always something to be said for getting software from the same vendor; you get used to the way that they do things and that can mean that you get more out of all of the software ... sort of 1+1=3 One thing that perplexes me is though, is why she doesn't port her apps to VB .Net I've just had a look at the Replicator and it's quite handy bit of software isn't it. One similar free offering is Microsoft's SyncToy. The big advantage of Karen's tool is the comprehensive scheduling (SyncToy has none), whereas SyncToy probably has better synchronisation options ... horses for courses as usual. A tool of hers that I do really like is her Hasher ... I've struggled to find a program that will do a single hash of a whole folder structure ... not that big of a deal to many people I guess

Good read; thanks. Let's hope it fixes the problem while they still have some users left.