Andavari
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There is the Freeware Rebooted thread, so why not add it into there?
That's what some YouTube computer reviewers have also included in their myriad of tests on PCs.
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In some software (not referring specifically to CCleaner on this):
Some of the cookies are like settings, so the user isn't constantly/consistently being bugged by certain things, delete the specific cookie and the software doesn't know to no bother/bug about something like a certain upgrade offer for example. -
It states that because "it's supposed to run TRIM" on an SSD drive. Problem is it will sometimes detect the drive incorrectly thinking it's an HDD (see other posts on the forum about that) and instead do an actual defrag of the drive. SSDs of old this would be very bad news on them, especially in low capacity sizes.
With modern enough SSDs from well known reputable brands with a high enough SSD DWPD and TBW values it's not good for them but also shouldn't kill them outright.
Windows via it's automatic maintenance/Optimize Drives will run TRIM (making 3rd party defrag tools unnecessary to use on an SSD drive) and Windows will also occasionally defrag an SSD because even on flash based storage fragments can become too numerous and will eventually cause issues.
Windows Optimize Drives is however not that useful on HDDs if you're looking for a better more thorough defrag which in turn means a much more time consuming defrag (could take hours, or even days depending upon drive capacity and the fragmentation level), that's were a 3rd party defrag tool is still necessary if that's what you want to achieve.
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There was a data recovery guy on YouTube that states differently, that "there's ways to get some files back" off flash based storage including SSDs, however his service is crazy expensive. Last time I saw him in a video was maybe two years ago and he was charging $300 USD per incident regardless of the amount of files, regardless if they were readable/usable, and even if he found nothing at all he was still owned the full $300 for attempting.
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I wonder why Windows or any OS for that matter doesn't have enough smarts to protect against such a thing in 2022. I think a good amount of us have been subject to the copy elsewhere and unfortunately delete original scenario -- but also that's why it's so important to create backups on a minimum of three external backup drives (I have four), and perhaps also a "Cloud" copy too as soon as possible which has saved me more than once when moving around a huge amount of data.
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Are you using the winapp2.ini community file that adds many additional cleaning routines into CCleaner? If so disabling it may fix the issue.
Check in Windows built-in Event Viewer to see if it's logging errors with Windows Search. Event Viewer is what clued me in on it being caused by an entry in the winapp2.ini community file which CCleaner can use, it was causing it by allowing CCleaner to delete too much. Once I removed the entries causing it from my copy of winapp2.ini I can safely clean Windows Search ("MS Search") (in Win10 at least) without issues.
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Thanks for the info Hazelnut. I'll just wait for it to auto-correct itself which shouldn't take too long as much as they consistently are updating it. Still wish it would be moved over into Windows Updates instead.
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Microsoft and their constant background auto updating of Edge Chromium was bound to backfire at some point and it did on my system yesterday. They done went and broke something by auto-installing a messed up version because it won't even launch anymore on my system. Not that I care because I don't like it, and never wanted it (but now there's 1.78GB of the rubbish on my system and it doesn't even work). Them breaking it is seriously bad if it's someone's only installed web browser.
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Lucky for the both of you.
New Workaround:
1. Don't type anything in, instead just click the button that lets you log into the forums, it errors out.
2. Now that not-so-special login page auto-appears that has always worked for logging in without erroneous errors. -
It started doing it again.
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CCleaner can NOT remove it!
I've did this before because I don't like Edge Chromium using scripting via Windows Power Shell which can very easily remove it -- just search for it online there's many reputable sources that explain exactly how to do it. Although I don't recommend it having already did it before with one install of Win10.
Caveat:
Uninstalling Edge Chromium means there will be no system default web browser installed, which in of itself can be a pain. What this details is if the 3rd party browser you're using has any significant bugs (instant crashing, freezing, etc.,) preventing it from being able to open you'd have to use a secondary computer to access the web, etc. So in such a scenario it's best to have a working secondary backup 3rd party browser... ...just in case. -
Tonight was the very first time in months that I was able to successfully login without it giving that annoying error.
BTW, the failed logins are one way to keep some of us off the forum that lack any sort of patience for old broken #$%&.
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The portable ZIP version hasn't been available for a few years at this point. Why it's not available (along with their other software's portable versions also missing) is unknown since they've never offered the reason to my knowledge.
Other topics asking why it's no longer available:
* https://community.ccleaner.com/topic/62402-recuva-portable/
* https://community.ccleaner.com/topic/58418-portable-version/
* https://community.ccleaner.com/topic/57634-not-possible-to-download-and-install-recuva-portable/Home Brewed Solution (this may be considered "circumvention" so an Admin can delete this if necessary):
https://community.ccleaner.com/topic/57634-not-possible-to-download-and-install-recuva-portable/?do=findComment&comment=320082 -
I never explicitly stated it would work on exFAT which it won't, which is stupid on Microsoft's part to be honest. Suggest your re-read my original reply carefully before making such statements!
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If the HDD is in the RAW format which Windows sees as un-formatted and unusable you "may be able to undo" that using a 3rd party freeware disk partitioning software. You'll have to read the feature list it states it has to see if undoing RAW format is an option in the freeware version, otherwise you'd have to pay money to get that feature and it may or may not help in your situation.
Note that the Disk Management tool in Windows can't do that, it will want to format the disk which would make recovery more difficult.
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Also, if using Windows 10 gets in the way of what a freeware disk partitioning tool wants to do you may have to try on an older version of Windows on an old computer if it's available to you such as WinXP, Win7, etc. -
On 04/06/2022 at 16:29, bgavin said:
Portable does indeed create registry entries.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Piriform\CCleaner
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Piriform\CCleanerWhere you unzipped CCleaner Portable make sure the portable.dat file is in the same folder as CCleaner.exe and CCleaner64.exe, it's required so it knows to not create registry data.
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If you don't have portable.dat in that folder:
1. Manually create it in Notepad by copying+pasting this into an empty Notepad window:
#PORTABLE#2. In Notepad save to the folder where CCleaner.exe and CCleaner64.exe are located, it's required to use quotes around the file name so Notepad doesn't create a text document, save as example:
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Fix the forum login already!
It's frustrating and it's been ages at this point when attempting to log into the forum it throws and error, and then the name and password has to be re-typed again.
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Looked at the video and he has some very valid points. Although practically all software including games is heading that way. I knew some computers were for Windows only, but never really knew the reason why when for example looking at a YouTube review of a laptop or Mini PC where the reviewer stated he/she couldn't get any Linux distro to run.
I'm more on the side of how video games and game consoles (already a locked down eco-system long before Microsoft farted out the though of locking PCs into being Windows only machines) will be in the very near future (i.e.; no Bluray/DVD drives in any consoles in the future is what I expect) and if wanting to play a game a subscription service will have to be bought, etc., and perhaps along with buying the game too versus how Microsoft currently does things with their arguably generous Xbox subscription service for people not wanting to actually buy whole games finish them and then never bother playing them again.
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Have to mention it seems since the Windows XP era that every version of Windows released after that which I can remember has had someone doomsaying something about it and why to avoid it. Party true but there are other choices albeit locked down alternatives like a Chromebook, etc., or someone can just build their own PC or Mini PC and install whatever Linux distro they want. -
Since no official fix has come from CCleaner might I suggest a very different workaround, and that is create a unique Games user profile in Windows that no 3rd party cleaning tools will ever touch such as CCleaner, etc. And then see if any issues continue or if it completely solves the issue.
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Modern Windows OSes can be used to permanently delete files which for instance doing a Full Format of a drive (traditional hard disk that is) in Win10/Win11 will do - that's one of the reasons doing a Full Format on many USB Flash Drives will outright kill them such as SanDisk brand drives, etc. When it comes to modern drives like SSD their built-in garbage collection, and TRIM initiated by an OS will result into already deleted files being very difficult to recover up to impossible.
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In closing, CCleaner isn't deleting files any better or worse compared to how the OS can do it, although with the OS a Full Format of a drive has to be done versus just "secure delete/erase, shred" of a single file(s)/folder(s). -
Maybe it's being reported so low because it's in the wrong slot for using a single channel stick of RAM - just a guess.
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I wonder if it's CCleaner's scheduled task that allows it to skip UAC prompts.
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On 23/04/2022 at 06:01, washtop said:
Before download Windows 11 or upgrade to it do check your system requirements.
Of course, that's good advice. My laptop was barely compatible with the cutoff of an 8th Gen Intel Core i7 and it has TPM 2.0. I wouldn't of been offered it if my system wasn't compatible. On my mother's 2014 era Dell laptop with a 6th Gen Intel Core i7 I'll have to convince her to switch to a Linux distro when Win10 is kaput because that laptop is still very usable and a well built tank.
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The only other thing I can think of is you could also look for any blocks in the Windows HOSTS file for following URLs (and anything that appears before them such as healthcheck.ccleaner.com) which are all related to CCleaner and should not be blocked since blocking "may cause issues" for your purchased features:
avast.com avcdn.net ccleaner.com piriform.comÂ
CCleaner not deleting Chrome JS files nor Edge JS files
in CCleaner Suggestions
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Like I had mentioned before it's already been in winapp2.ini community file and it's still in there as I just looked at it. This is exactly what and where it will clean (which in your case would delete those 'Code Cache' files):
[Edge Code Cache *]
LangSecRef=3006
DetectFile=%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Edge*
FileKey1=%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Edge*\User Data\*\Code Cache|*.*|RECURSE
FileKey2=%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Edge*\User Data\*\Storage\ext\*\def\Code Cache|*.*|RECURSE
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If you go the route of using winapp2.ini you'll find that there's allot more than just Code Cache to clean in Edge Chromium, I'm regularly watching CCleaner clear a ton of stuff from it and I don't even use that browser.
The winapp2.ini community file topic:
https://community.ccleaner.com/topic/32310-winapp2ini-additions/