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- The program could display a warning like "Ccleaner will restart the process Explorer.exe" (or something along those lines)

- But then why does Ccleaner contain that one cleaning option ("Clear thumbnail caches") in the first place ?

- Yes, but Ccleaner should be able to re-start "Explorer.exe" again like Tweaking's Windows Repair does. Then the situation is back to normal. So, it can be done ........... - Or perhaps there is another way to get this done. Perhaps some small program or script can be executed when a user starts or shuts down his machine and which will delete those thumbnail caches. - "Corrupted Recycle Bin": that's also very easy. The trick is that one also first needs to reset the permissions of the Recycle Bins (plural) and then simply delete the appropriate folder (e.g. "C:\$Recyclebin") and Windows will rebuild the Recycle Bin folder (when needed). Works like magic in Tweaking's Windows Repair. So, why aren't the good folks at Ccleaner able to to make that work ? - I simply don't see what could be so difficult here. If the good folks at Ccleaner REALLY want it then it should be "a piece of cake".

- Every now and then one or more thumbnail caches are corrupted. One way this shows up is that one or more program icons have disappeared. Then a generic symbol shows up instead. But it seems CCleaner is unable to remove those caches. After running Ccleaner the proper program icon(s) didn't re-emerge. - Then I grab another program (Tweaking's Windows Repair) that's able to delete those caches (No, this program is NOT a competitor of Ccleaner !!!) and then Windows will be forced to re-build those caches. - To be able to delete those caches one must kill the process "Explorer.exe", delete the caches and then re-start "Explorer.exe". But I don't see Ccleaner doing that. "Explorer.exe" keeps running and then those caches won't be deleted at all. - Am I doing something wrong ? Do I have to run Ccleaner with admin rights ? Bug in the program code of Ccleaner ?

- Try to find out where those rules are stored. (Firefox helpforum ???) Perhaps you can copy them to another folder (as a backup ??) and copy them back to that one special folder (???) after running CCleaner. - Go to the website FileHippo ( https://filehippo.com/ ) There you can download previous versions of CCleaner. One of those previous versions doesn't delete those rules. Install that version and make sure that you install each version of CCleaner in a different folder. Then compare the file "winapp2.ini" of that one version with the file "winapp2.ini" of the latest version. Are there any differences between the 2 files ? - Report in this thread what you found. It will be helpful for other Firefox users as well.

- There is new OEC PRO version available with fixes for the bugs in the july 6, 2020 version.

- From the OEC Facebook page(s), I pulled the following texts: source: https://www.facebook.com/oeclassic - Comment #1: "Gmail should be Griefmail, it periodically stops OE Classic from collecting my mail so goodbye to the problem. GMX.com and Outlook.com are superior to Gmail and have never caused a fault with OE Classic collecting mail." - OEC replied as follows: "It is true that Gmail quality of service has dropped in the recent years. But still beats Yahoo mail (also used by ATT and Frontier as well as some others) which is one of the least reliable servers we know of (also a frequent cause of tech support questions)" - Comment #2: "If you use Mail for Windows 10 as a "backup" to OE Classic, be careful! If you use it in combination with Gmail, the latest update of Windows 10 can cause this application to randomly delete messages from various Gmail folders. OE Classic of course has no such issues. If you're interested in more of the issues with Windows 10 May update - we wrote a bit on that on our blog. https://www.infobyte.hr/blog/642/windows-10-may-2020-update-v2004-is-a-disaster/"

- Users of the july 2020 version of OEC PRO should remove this version and go back to the june 10, 2020 version. There is a MAJOR annoying bug that shows up when the user is writing an email. The same bug shows up in a slightly different way in each language. - I assume the developers are aware of this bug because the last available version for download is that june 10, 2020 version. The july 2020 version has been removed. - Re-installing the previous version is very simple. Remove all files from "C:\Program files (x86)\OEClassic", download & install the latest available PRO version

- Try this: (Temporarily) Disable System Restore. That will speed up the defrag process.

- Another way to speed up Defraggler: (Temporarily) disable System Restore.

- Ran both Defraggler and RAMMAP again today and saw 102 (!!!) instances of "Defraggler.exe". I.e. 102 DF zombie processes.

@kubakakauko - Start defragmenting these folders first: C:\Windows C:\Program files C:\Program files(x86) - If starting programs is super slow then I would also check the health of the drive. What do you see when you open the "Health" tab in Defraggler ?

- Switch off "System Restore". This will reduce the time needed for a full defrag of your HD.

@CTYankee: - To be able to defrag a file (with Defraggler) that has a size of X you need a contiguous free space of - at least - the same size X. And that's not the case on your system with the E: drive. No wonder Defraggler won't (completely) defrag the pagefile. The best it can do is to decrease the fragmentation. - A defragmented pagefile will indeed increase the performance of your system - Try this: - Turn off the pagefile and (temporarily) move all other files to another drive. - Format the E: drive (again). - Turn on the pagefile, choose a size for the pagefile that's (a little) smaller than the size of the E: drive. Hopefully the pagefile won't be fragmented.

- I still use Internet Explorer 11 on my Windows 7 system every now and then. Using IE 11 still has a number of advantages over e.g. Edge & Chrome. - Although I was looking for something else in the "Microsoft Update catalogus", I was very surprised to see that MS still issues "Cumulative Security Updates" for IE 11 for Windows 7. Even though MS doesn't support Windows 7 anymore. The latest version was issued on june 8, 2020 (KB 4561603). - Source: https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com and search with the words 'internet explore 11 update'.

- I have seen that my bug reports (plural) were used to improve the Piriform programs in the past.

- Run Antibody's wizTree. And sort the results on filesize. Any files that are VERY large ? - What's the size of the folder "System Volume Information" (There the System Restore Points are stored) ?

- I think you need to reset your password. Many websites allow you to do so. - I Always send an email to myself with the (new) Username & (new) Password after I have changed my log-in info and store that email in a special place.

- CCleaner is a very powerful tool. When you use the program for the first time then I would recommend to untick ALL boxes and then step by step tick more and more boxes and see how your system reponds after each step. - The default setting is that cleaning / removing of all cookies is enabled. - Just untick all the "Cookie" boxes for all browsers that show up in the list (Chrome, Edge, ............... ). Log-in for those programs / applications (again). After running CCleaner once more the cookies should be still there. - CCleaner also allows you to select which cookies must be kept and which can be removed. (Options > Cookies).

- One minor detail: Email adresses in Norway end with ".no", not ".nb".

- When the content of that "Windows.old" is a relic of Windows 7 on your otherwise well functioning Windows 10 system then I wouldn't hesitate. Just delete the entire content of "C:\Windows.old" folder.

- Have been using DF today again and when I opened RAMMAP I saw 43 DF "Zombie" processes ("Defraggler.exe") while Task Manager showed only one process called "Defraggler64.exe". - It seems that somehow the process "Defraggler64.exe" opens "Defraggler.exe" and uses some of the subroutines and then "forgets" to tell the Operating System that the process has done its job and the process can be "closed"/"removed". - This also can be a bug in the program code. E.g. "Defraggler64.exe" has all the subroutines it needs to perform its tasks but still calls upon "Defraggler.exe" every now and then. This could be a remnant of a previous Defraggler version before there was no 64 bit version of the program. Lots of possibilities on why so many Zombie processes show up. - When I look at the size of the 43 DF "zombies" then I see that these Zombies actually don't use that much memory. RAMMAP reports that each of these 43 processes only use 20 Kb. Seems each of these processes are opened/created but then these processes each are hardly used/don't see little or no "activity". And - in general - one can say that the more a process is being used the larger the memory footprint. There the low memory usage could give a good indication of what's going on. - Another thing I noticed is that as soon as I close DF the zombie processes (seem to) disappear away as well. Odd, very odd.

- When I remember well then it also only occurs when the user has told DF that the settings should be stored in an *.ini file on disk and not in the registry. - Again, needs to be fixed in the next version.

- This is a known bug in Defraggler. Needs to be fixed in the next version !!!! - The only way is to manually open the *.ini file and delete / modify the list yourself.

- After using DF for a while the amount of "Zombie processes" (see previous post) - as exposed by RAMMAP - reached the level of 38 instances.