Jamin4u

I use TweakUAC in quiet mode. Why do you ask?

Settings saved to INI file. I removed one entry from the exclude list as follows. 1) Highlighted file path. 2) Clicked on delete. 3) Clicked yes 4) Clicked OK If I click on the exclude tab again, the entry is gone. If I close Defraggler then re-start Defraggler, the entry returns. If I repeat steps one through four, then save the settings to the registry and then back to INI file the change is remembered. v2.11.560 Vista sp2 XP sp3

Since I started using Defraggler in v2.10.424, I've always had these three options enabled . I still get alot of fragmentation when using the normal mode of defrag freespace.

It does seem a little slower than 2.10 but I would need more runs to confirm this for sure.

I noticed that as well in the normal mode of defrag freespace. I start out with no fragmented files then end up defraging from the file list afterward. It was also present in v2.10.424. No big deal here, but it would be nice to see it do better if possible. Vista sp2 XP sp3

Is there a trusted program to identify outdated drivers with links to downloads?

It calculates your disk performance and shows a result like "Random Read Speed: 2.52 MB/s ". I would think it could be used as a before and after defrag comparison. I'm not sure about its full use but that's the basic function.

I'm not trying to convince anyone that you should remove the program names. It was unnecessary to list them in my case because I have no desire to learn how to test my WiFi via one of these programs. If I'm doing all I can to secure my wireless network, that's all I want. I'm comfortable with what's been said here regarding how difficult it would be to set up a program to decrypt my access point password or captured packets. Thank you

@ Super Fast I fully understood your intentions were to help educate and not to encourage the use of such network protocol analyzers for malicious intent. I think its ironic that there are such programs that can be used for education and other legitimate uses on one hand, and malicious intent on the other. ShieldsUP for example is a great way to test your firewall but it doesn't show you how to bypass a firewall. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I thought it would be best to leave the cookie in the jar rather than put it out on the table. ShieldsUp https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

:lol: Thanks to both of you!

I didn't include the names of the programs I saw because I don't want to encourage anyone to learn how to do this. Feel free to remove the names of the programs you listed. If I have a hacker neighbor or a drive by hacker, can they get information like destination ip addresses and passwords. I've taken all of the available steps to protect my connection and I have a long difficult password. Don't they need my password to decrypt the packets? Would it be recommended to do such business as banking on a wired connection only?

I read that there are programs that have decryption support for WPA2. Does that mean that someone can grab your WiFi packets and decrypt them? If so, what information can they get from them?

According to filehippo.com the latest version is... http://www.filehippo...gler/tech/8084/

Please take a look at the first picture and you'll see that I made defraggler look like yours... http://postimage.org/image/ok20larur/ If you move your mouse over the areas where the red arrows are pointing, you'll see arrows like the black ones. when visible, left click mouse (hold) and drag up or down to resize window. 1) Resize drive window. 2) Resize the square boxes (files) window. By left clicking mouse (hold) and dragging down, I made the window look like this... http://postimage.org/image/4d990vin9/

It looks like you just need to adjust Defragglers view of the files. There are two points on the GUI that you can left click and drag to adjust the window.

After excluding a 120 MB antivirus database file, it still shows up in analysis results. 1) Analyze 2) Defrag all files in the file list (antivirus database not listed) 3) Analyze (file list shows no fragmented files) 4) Analysis results under status still shows 1 fragmented file (120 MB) (antivirus database) Defraggler v2.10.424 XP sp3 & Vista sp2

After analyzing then viewing the file list, having the ability to right click and add to exclude list would be a nice feature.

It would be great to see this as well as the total time elapsed for an action.

I'm just going to use Analyze then defrag from the file list (check all) then Defragment Freespace in Normal Mode (weekly) and see what happens. I agree that the regular defrag can be time consuming and not to mention the wear and tear on a hard drive.

It doesn't matter which way you defrag with Defraggler as far as what % is still fragmented when your done. It should be the same unless you defrag only some files from the file list way. The full defrag adds more than just defraging the file system. What files do you see in the file list when you analyze after defraging? They may be unmovable files. Edit: I never thought of looking at the technical information part of the documentation. D'oh! Technical Information This explains why Defraggler takes a long time to complete its routine using the defrag button. It's doing a defragment and optimize routine more complex than just free space consolidation. I now know this because Defragglers equivalent to free space consolidation is called Defragmenting freespace. My new routine will be... Analyze then defrag from the file list (check all) then Defragment Freespace in Normal Mode (weekly) Badabing! Badaboom!

Quick defrag + defrag from the file list will defrag files but leave behind gaps. These gaps will be filled with new files. If the whole file can't fit in one of the spaces, then the remaining part of the file will be written in the next space and so on. This would be a fragmented file because it's not one continuous file. As eL_PuSHeR stated, the regular defrag will add free space consolidation. This means files will be moved around to fill those gaps in an attempt to create one continuous block. This will help prevent fragmentation of new files. Keep in mind that when you delete a file or uninstall a program you just created gaps. Keeping the file system always gap free wouldn't be possible. Defrag programs use different optimizing algorithms and since the the online documentation of Defraggler doesn't go into detail of the process, we can only speculate on the exact process. I follow Piriforms advise by using analyze and then determine what action I will take. 1) Do nothing. 2) Quick defrag or from the file list. (I use daily to weekly) 3) Defrag (I use weekly to monthly) If you change this setting you should see 0% fragmentation after defraging. Settings > Options > Advanced > check box for "Use custom fragmentation settings" click on Define > check boxes for exclude restore point file and hibernation file > click ok ok

Yes, I understand that the size of a partition, and as I stated "it would depend on how much data and how long it's been since the last defrag" would have an impact on how long the process will take. All I'm saying is that many comments have been made on how long it takes Defraggler to finish its default defrag routine. Your replys have consisted of "I think" and "as far as I know" when it comes to what Defraggler is doing during its default defrag routine. As much as I appreciate your input, I'd like to know as a matter of fact if Defraggler is using a complex algorithm or is it's engine just slow. In the last update there was work done on speed and algorithms. Perhaps the program just needs a little more time to mature into the class that CCleaner has. Overall I really like Defraggler, but like you and others I mostly use quick defrag or the file list. Which of course over time will promote fragmentation.

I asked the question what the standard default defrag does exactly but received no response. It's not in the documentation... I don't think free space consolidation should take a very long time. Of course it would depend on how much data and how long it's been since the last defrag. I'm wondering if the standard default defrag is also moving system files to the faster part of the disk. I've used another defrag program weekly where defrag and free space consolidation takes 10 minutes on both of my systems. Bottom line is quick defrag or defraging from the file list are great, but they leave gaps that promote fragmentation.

Anyone in London going to the Games? Anyone worldwide just watching the Games? I like Track and Field and Gymnastics. Being from the USA, I'm looking forward to Lolo Jones redeeming herself from the 2008 Beijing stumble she had in the 100 meter hurdles. Go Lolo! Remember the time zone differences. No spoilers!

Why does the standard default Defrag routine take so long? Is it moving system files to the faster part of the disk?