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Jahamaville
I've tested and confirmed this bug on a clean install of Firefox. The option "Saved Form Information" is causing CCleaner to delete saved passwords in Firefox.

Windows Vista Ultimate SP1
Mozilla Firefox 3.0.9
CCleaner 2.19.900
DavidCB
I have encountered this problem as well. Lost all my saved passwords. Each time I run CCleaner [2.19.900] all saved passwords are erased.
freaked
i have the same problem in 2.19.900 -.-
the option from firefox "Saved Form Information" deled all my passwords (signons2 & signons3 file) :/

for my plasure i have a backup from my profil files but another people dont have^^

Windows XP Pro SP3 32bit
Firefox 3.0.10
CCleaner 2.19.900

EDIT: i tested on my other pc -> im runing some tests and every time ccleaner deled it...
wolverine007
Hi,

I'm having the same problem on all my pc's here, I noticed it to late so on all my pc's the passwords are gone.

My systems divering from WIn Vista too XP, and using ccleaner 2.19.900.

Wolverine007
Virtual-70
Hi, same diagnosis
pb is on "the option from firefox "Saved Form Information""
Vista, FF3.0.10 & CCleaner 2.19.900
acooldozen
huh.gif Do you have "saved form information" checked or un-checked????????
Virtual-70
"saved form information" checked
always had all FF options checked before, but since 2.19.900, passwords are wiped
i want form infos to be cleaned and no link to pwds to my mind
acooldozen
Well........there you have it. If it's checked, it's Gone! wink.gif
Fabrizio Monti
I can confirm same "bug" in in 2.19.900 on windows xp home 32bit

With "Saved form information" option checked, CC delete "signons3.txt" file in my firefox profile directory. That's where password are saved.

Last version did not do so.

Maybe they should add another option "Delete saved password", so we can delete form information BUT NOT password.

Except this bug, great work Piriform!
Pamperlang
I have the exact same issue. All my saved passwords are gone. sad.gif

I always had "Saved Form Information" checked and while it deleted the stuff I typed into forms, it never deleted the passwords I specifically told FireFox to remember. Forms history and saved passwords in Firefox are two separate things so I agree with a previous comment that - at the very least - this should be two separate options in CCleaner.

Windows Vista Ultimate SP1
Mozilla Firefox 3.0.9
CCleaner 2.19.900
GRIFFONG
I also lost all my password in Firefox using latest version of CCleaner... sad.gif
I changed Nothing in the option but when I upgraded CCleaner to the latest version.....
smashingjackson
QUOTE (GRIFFONG @ May 2 2009, 05:58 PM) *
I also lost all my password in Firefox using latest version of CCleaner... sad.gif
I changed Nothing in the option but when I upgraded CCleaner to the latest version.....



Same here...

This can hardly be blamed on the user, I've always had that option checked. The latest version of CCleaner is the only one to have wiped out my passwords.
GRIFFONG
QUOTE (acooldozen @ May 2 2009, 02:01 PM) *
Well........there you have it. If it's checked, it's Gone! wink.gif

Even "acooldozen" says "there you have it and if it's checked, it's gone!"

My point is why previous CCleaner didn't delete Saved password "signons3.txt" file and why now???

I appreciate Piriform telling me that they changed (or add) a meaning of one option "Saved Form Information" much before...
stinman
QUOTE (GRIFFONG @ May 3 2009, 01:04 PM) *
Even "acooldozen" says "there you have it and if it's checked, it's gone!"

My point is why previous CCleaner didn't delete Saved password "signons3.txt" file and why now???

I appreciate Piriform telling me that they changed (or add) a meaning of one option "Saved Form Information" much before...

I am replying to all,I never had this checked because a few years ago it wiped out my passwords.The point is to wipe out "all" saved form info.Passwords are that.I never check this option.I use Firefox's own "clear private data" for this,it does a fine job and never clears out the passwords unless you check it.Ccleaner is a great tool.I thought it always did this,I'm glad I didn't have it checked.
Mark
MarshallO
I had the same problem, and didn't appreciate having to spend half a day reinstalling saved passwords (many of which the websites involved required to be changed!). By having "Saved Form Information" checked, CCleaner completely removed "signons3.txt" in the Firefox Profiles folder, which is where all the saved passwords are kept. I'm currently rebuilding it.

I now have CCleaner set to not clean-up anything in Firefox. It's really not a necessary feature, anyway, as Firefox does its own cleaning when closing down.
MarshallO
I don't know how Piriform works. Why hasn't a Piriform software engineer indicated to us that they intend to FIX this "bug"?
DennisD
Guys, please note.

I don't think this is just a CCleaner issue.

I installed Firefox v3.0.10 yesterday, and without running CCleaner, I was unable to log in to any of my sites automatically.

I re-entered all my details again at 5 different places, made sure I wasn't clearing cookies within Firefox itself, and then closed it down.

Once again, without running CCleaner, I went back online and all my login details were gone again.

I binned Firefox completely, as it's either an unsecure old version, or a very problematic latest "secure" one. There are problems all over the internet at the moment with Firefox.

So bear a thought for CCleaners developers as the browser developers are moving the goalposts constantly, and it's one hell of a job keeping up with them.

Just out of interest, I have no problems with Opera.
GRIFFONG
QUOTE (DennisD @ May 3 2009, 09:54 PM) *
Guys, please note.

I don't think this is just a CCleaner issue.

I installed Firefox v3.0.10 yesterday, and without running CCleaner, I was unable to log in to any of my sites automatically.

I re-entered all my details again at 5 different places, made sure I wasn't clearing cookies within Firefox itself, and then closed it down.

Once again, without running CCleaner, I went back online and all my login details were gone again.

I binned Firefox completely, as it's either an unsecure old version, or a very problematic latest "secure" one. There are problems all over the internet at the moment with Firefox.

So bear a thought for CCleaners developers as the browser developers are moving the goalposts constantly, and it's one hell of a job keeping up with them.

Just out of interest, I have no problems with Opera.


Hi DennisD,

FYI...

If you see carefully the logs what CCleaner 2.19.900 cleaned with the option "Saved Form Information",
"signons3.txt" file is in the log as deleted.

Exsample...

CLEANING COMPLETE - (2.472 secs)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
15.85KB removed.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Details of files deleted
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C:\Users\<LOGIN-NAME>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<xxxxxx99.default>\signons3.txt 11.85KB
C:\Users\<LOGIN-NAME>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<xxxxxx99.default>\formhistory.sqlite 4.00KB
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So... I guess this is CCleaner2.19.900 issue...
Robbie
I'm still running Firefox 2 and can confirm that the latest release of CCleaner (2.19.900) is also deleting the equivalent password file in Firefox 2, signons2.txt when "Saved Form Information" is ticked in addition to formhistory.dat (the old Firefox 2 equivalent of formhistory.sqlite). I've just reinstalled CCleaner 2.18.878 and only the formhistory.dat file is wiped with the signons2.txt file remaining untouched.
jwall
QUOTE (DennisD @ May 3 2009, 02:54 PM) *
Guys, please note.

I don't think this is just a CCleaner issue.

I installed Firefox v3.0.10 yesterday, and without running CCleaner, I was unable to log in to any of my sites automatically.

I re-entered all my details again at 5 different places, made sure I wasn't clearing cookies within Firefox itself, and then closed it down.

Once again, without running CCleaner, I went back online and all my login details were gone again.

I binned Firefox completely, as it's either an unsecure old version, or a very problematic latest "secure" one. There are problems all over the internet at the moment with Firefox.

So bear a thought for CCleaners developers as the browser developers are moving the goalposts constantly, and it's one hell of a job keeping up with them.

Just out of interest, I have no problems with Opera.


+1 on the Opera. I tossed FF a few versions ago. No problems what so ever with Opera. IE8 seems a tad faster, but I'm keeping Opera as my default browser and version 10 looks to be better.
Jahamaville
QUOTE (DennisD @ May 3 2009, 03:54 PM) *
Guys, please note.

I don't think this is just a CCleaner issue.

I installed Firefox v3.0.10 yesterday, and without running CCleaner, I was unable to log in to any of my sites automatically.

I re-entered all my details again at 5 different places, made sure I wasn't clearing cookies within Firefox itself, and then closed it down.

Once again, without running CCleaner, I went back online and all my login details were gone again.

I binned Firefox completely, as it's either an unsecure old version, or a very problematic latest "secure" one. There are problems all over the internet at the moment with Firefox.

So bear a thought for CCleaners developers as the browser developers are moving the goalposts constantly, and it's one hell of a job keeping up with them.

Just out of interest, I have no problems with Opera.

I installed Firefox v3.0.10 yesterday, and without running CCleaner, I was unable to log in to any of my sites automatically.
Maybe you ran CCleaner before updating Firefox?

Once again, without running CCleaner, I went back online and all my login details were gone again.
It's possible this bug corrupted your profile in some way which prevented Firefox from saving passwords again.

There are problems all over the internet at the moment with Firefox.
If there are a lot of people reporting losing their saved passwords, ever considered maybe these problems are being caused by CCleaner?

Just out of interest, I have no problems with Opera.
Operas settings are saved to a different folder and it has a different way of storing saved passwords. It's very unlikely the same bug would affect both browsers.
MarshallO
DennisD:

It's a CCleaner problem, all right, it's been reported under two topic headings by many users in your CCleaner "bugs" forum.

By not using the Firefox cleaning feature in CCleaner, I've recreated all my saved passwords and gotten my "signons3.txt" back (which took me hours!), which CCleaner deleted, and they have all stayed!

Denying that it is Piriform's problem will not help fix it!
MarshallO
QUOTE (DennisD @ May 3 2009, 12:54 PM) *
Guys, please note.

I don't think this is just a CCleaner issue.

I installed Firefox v3.0.10 yesterday, and without running CCleaner, I was unable to log in to any of my sites automatically.

I re-entered all my details again at 5 different places, made sure I wasn't clearing cookies within Firefox itself, and then closed it down.

Once again, without running CCleaner, I went back online and all my login details were gone again.

I binned Firefox completely, as it's either an unsecure old version, or a very problematic latest "secure" one. There are problems all over the internet at the moment with Firefox.

So bear a thought for CCleaners developers as the browser developers are moving the goalposts constantly, and it's one hell of a job keeping up with them.

Just out of interest, I have no problems with Opera.


You are wrong! Everyone else in two "bug" forums have found this to be a CCleaner problem! I have never had any issues until the newest version of CCleaner came out!
_ccleaner_
Well, you guys have complained so much that they decided to remove the behavior...

There is a new version v2.19.901 that puts "Saved Form Information" for Firefox back to how it was.
http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showto...mp;#entry135774

Even though i don't think this is the correct solution as passwords saved on FF profile folder is a major flaw as anyone can read it using the "key3.db" right there in the same folder!!!
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Signons.txt

But now you have it back! I hope you enjoy having everyone reading your passwords!

thanks
TheOdds
QUOTE (_ccleaner_ @ May 7 2009, 03:28 PM) *
Even though i don't think this is the correct solution as passwords saved on FF profile folder is a major flaw as anyone can read it using the "key3.db" right there in the same folder!!!
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Signons.txt

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ There. I would really like to see you report that one. rolleyes.gif
MarshallO
QUOTE (_ccleaner_ @ May 7 2009, 07:28 AM) *
But now you have it back! I hope you enjoy having everyone reading your passwords!

thanks


I think that you are "making a mountain out of a molehill".

The only passwords I save on Firefox are those to websites where it doesn't matter if someone else accesses them! One would hardly want to save passwords to sites that contain sensitive information about themselves, would one? That's what the "Exceptions" button is for.
Tom.B
All the passwords and user details used for my FF add-ons seem to be getting completely wiped and I suspect it to be on CCleaner's end as it started happening after I installed the latest update. May have to disable said option until the bug is corrected as it is a pain in the butt to re-enter everything smile.gif
Andavari
Tom.B if you're using 2.19.900 that's now an old version, the newest version is 2.19.901 and is available here.
AXE
QUOTE (Andavari @ May 8 2009, 09:46 PM) *
Tom.B if you're using 2.19.900 that's now an old version, the newest version is 2.19.901 and is available here.

I am new here but not to how things works. My problem is i followed where you said can be found here .But the problem is when i try to download the 901 version it does not say 901 i have 5 different versions but the all say c cleaner but if you have 5 version on your puterit does this c leaner 1. 2. 3 .4 .5 so u can.t tell what one is the 901 thanks.
MarshallO
QUOTE (AXE @ May 9 2009, 11:10 AM) *
I am new here but not to how things works. My problem is i followed where you said can be found here .But the problem is when i try to download the 901 version it does not say 901 i have 5 different versions but the all say c cleaner but if you have 5 version on your puterit does this c leaner 1. 2. 3 .4 .5 so u can.t tell what one is the 901 thanks.


You should only have ONE version of CCleaner on your computer, and the version number is noted in the upper left-hand corner of the CCleaner screen after the Words CCleaner.com, i.e. "v2.19.901".

Delete all the earlier versions from your computer!
SarahWayne
This is of great information to me. From now on I will be using CCleaner.

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