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#1 OFFLINE   steve1368

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 03:19 PM

A person I know plans to buy a new cpu.
Between MSI & Asus, which is better? (without specific model, just in general)

2ndly, aside the above 2, whats the most recommended motherboards?

BTW I have Asus P4PE, is it O.K ? and I noted there is Asus Update at the start menu,
I never updated.....is it necessary to update my motherboard or any m/board for that matter?

Thanks

Steve B)

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 11:27 PM

steve1368, on Apr 28 2005, 09:19 AM, said:

A person I know plans to buy a new cpu.
Between MSI & Asus, which is better? (without specific model, just in general)

2ndly, aside the above 2, whats the most recommended motherboards?

BTW I have Asus P4PE, is it O.K ? and I noted there is Asus Update at the start menu,
I never updated.....is it necessary to update my motherboard or any m/board for that matter?

Thanks

Steve  B)

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Someone correct me if i am wrong, but that is probably a link to buy a new one.
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Posted 29 April 2005 - 02:46 AM

lol gunner. motherboard manufacturers don't spam like that.

steve1368: This may sound weird, but are you helping someone named Mordred [the impaler]? o_O

Anyway.

There are motherboard driver and BIOS updates and sometimes it is useful to get them, but it is NOT generally recommended that you get them unless you are having problems, and are advised by a technician.

Steve: your question can't be answered because they are both equally good but in different areas. MSI tends to make some of the most stable and balanced video cards, and ASUS tends to make the best Intel motherboards... MSI makes some pretty good AMD 64 boards... it will definitely depend on the model or platform in mind.

I currently use an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe, which is a kickass board for AMD 2500+ through 3200+, but is last generation. The equivalent P4 board is apparently just as great. (ASUS P4P800-E DLX). Your board is based on the i845 chipset, which is excellent, but is also last-gen. Your particular board was getting high ratings with the high-end PC builders. Also, ASUS tends to pack in as much hardware as they can on one board (a bazillion USB ports, a bazillion PCI slots, etc)... MSI goes more for stability and balance than performance, whereas ASUS is known for performance and high quality.

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Posted 29 April 2005 - 03:07 AM

DjLizard, on Apr 28 2005, 08:46 PM, said:

lol gunner.  motherboard manufacturers don't spam like that.

steve1368: This may sound weird, but are you helping someone named Mordred [the impaler]? o_O

Anyway.

There are motherboard driver and BIOS updates and sometimes it is useful to get them, but it is NOT generally recommended that you get them unless you are having problems, and are advised by a technician.

Steve: your question can't be answered because they are both equally good but in different areas.  MSI tends to make some of the most stable and balanced video cards, and ASUS tends to make the best Intel motherboards... MSI makes some pretty good AMD 64 boards... it will definitely depend on the model or platform in mind.

I currently use an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe, which is a kickass board for AMD 2500+ through 3200+, but is last generation.  The equivalent P4 board is apparently just as great. (ASUS P4P800-E DLX).  Your board is based on the i845 chipset, which is excellent, but is also last-gen.  Your particular board was getting high ratings with the high-end PC builders.  Also, ASUS tends to pack in as much hardware as they can on one board (a bazillion USB ports, a bazillion PCI slots, etc)... MSI goes more for stability and balance than performance, whereas ASUS is known for performance and high quality.

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Posted 29 April 2005 - 03:07 AM

DjLizard, on Apr 28 2005, 08:46 PM, said:

lol gunner.  motherboard manufacturers don't spam like that.

steve1368: This may sound weird, but are you helping someone named Mordred [the impaler]? o_O

Anyway.

There are motherboard driver and BIOS updates and sometimes it is useful to get them, but it is NOT generally recommended that you get them unless you are having problems, and are advised by a technician.

Steve: your question can't be answered because they are both equally good but in different areas.  MSI tends to make some of the most stable and balanced video cards, and ASUS tends to make the best Intel motherboards... MSI makes some pretty good AMD 64 boards... it will definitely depend on the model or platform in mind.

I currently use an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe, which is a kickass board for AMD 2500+ through 3200+, but is last generation.  The equivalent P4 board is apparently just as great. (ASUS P4P800-E DLX).  Your board is based on the i845 chipset, which is excellent, but is also last-gen.  Your particular board was getting high ratings with the high-end PC builders.  Also, ASUS tends to pack in as much hardware as they can on one board (a bazillion USB ports, a bazillion PCI slots, etc)... MSI goes more for stability and balance than performance, whereas ASUS is known for performance and high quality.

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Posted 29 April 2005 - 03:11 AM

Some day I will learn not to use the back button while posting. Meanwhile, I knew that lizard was waiting for me when I posted that!
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Posted 29 April 2005 - 03:30 AM

Matter of fact, don't quote at all anymore... we can pretty much see what was JUST POSTED, lol :P

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Posted 29 April 2005 - 03:31 AM

gunner, on Apr 29 2005, 07:27 AM, said:

Someone correct me if i am wrong, but that is probably a link to buy a new one.

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You must be joking gunner, but I'm still cool about your statement. I'm learning about computers as much as I can....I don't sell any computers or motherboards,
in fact I work in a shipping company. LOL

DjLizard, on Apr 29 2005, 10:46 AM, said:

lol gunner.  motherboard manufacturers don't spam like that.

steve1368: This may sound weird, but are you helping someone named Mordred [the impaler]? o_O

Sorry DJ Lizard, I don't know "Mordred" , I'm actually checking for my wife{yes that someone I know :) } who is getting a cpu, which earlier suppose to come with Asus m/board, now it is going to come with MSI m/board.......so I was curious becos my pc has Asus, and I thought it was the best......at least from my limited knowledge I have on computers.

DjLizard, on Apr 29 2005, 10:46 AM, said:

Anyway.

There are motherboard driver and BIOS updates and sometimes it is useful to get them, but it is NOT generally recommended that you get them unless you are having problems, and are advised by a technician.

Steve: your question can't be answered because they are both equally good but in different areas.  MSI tends to make some of the most stable and balanced video cards, and ASUS tends to make the best Intel motherboards... MSI makes some pretty good AMD 64 boards... it will definitely depend on the model or platform in mind.

I currently use an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe, which is a kickass board for AMD 2500+ through 3200+, but is last generation.  The equivalent P4 board is apparently just as great. (ASUS P4P800-E DLX).  Your board is based on the i845 chipset, which is excellent, but is also last-gen.  Your particular board was getting high ratings with the high-end PC builders.  Also, ASUS tends to pack in as much hardware as they can on one board (a bazillion USB ports, a bazillion PCI slots, etc)... MSI goes more for stability and balance than performance, whereas ASUS is known for performance and high quality.

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I know what you mean, it is difficult to answer. But with your message I still "feel" Asus sounds better for Pentium 4, well I guess my wife has to try out with MSI.

About the update , thanks for the info...I'll keep my hands off from that.

Steve B)

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Posted 29 April 2005 - 07:55 PM

I was kidding, but I meant the link on your computer is to give you a taste of new drivers,etc,and let you see bigger and better mobo's that you can buy. Good marketing.So there, Gila monster!
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:48 AM

Msi is the way to go they have a lot of overclocking ability

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http://www.internetcleaningtool.net/

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Posted 17 May 2005 - 08:42 PM

internetcleaningtool, on May 17 2005, 06:48 AM, said:

Msi is the way to go they have a lot of overclocking ability

internet cleaning tool
http://www.internetcleaningtool.net/

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I thought this guy was a spammer. Wasnt he banned?

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Posted 17 May 2005 - 08:52 PM

Guess not, and guess not... but the website he advertises certainly is spammy looking

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Posted 17 May 2005 - 11:36 PM

we have sold msi mainboards and the return rate is very low on these
units. Highly recommend

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:07 PM

internetcleaningtool, on May 17 2005, 11:36 PM, said:

we have sold msi mainboards and the return rate is very low on these
units. Highly recommend

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:42 PM

Cursedbythegods, on May 18 2005, 06:07 PM, said:

Are you human?

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he must not be. he hasnt responded to anyone who has called him a spammer. I think if he was human than he wouldnt keep putting that link on every post he puts up either.

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 11:17 PM

Hes a decent bot at least...(IE he dosn't shoot off binary on every post XD)


Whats funny is, theres alot of miss spellings on "his website" though, there isn't a download link for "Internet Cleaning Tool".


He is a n00b!

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 11:26 PM

Site looks like a bad geocities website.

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 11:42 PM

Just what the computer world needs. Another internet tool man. Tell us how to download your apparatus, tool man.
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Posted 27 May 2005 - 07:35 AM

Buy one that supports AMD processors and try get a AMD 64, preferably the new dual-core variant. ;)

Both MSI and ASUS make great motherboards.
What I like with MSI is that it has alot of functions.

Try get one that has integrated network card, sound card, and perhaps even graphics card. That way you dont have to waste money buying network card, sound card and graphics card.

Dont buy any motherboard with ISA slots.
Be sure that the motherboard has PCI-E (PCI Express) slots.

You do not need to update the motherboard BIOS unless you have any problem with the computer such as stability issues and crashes. If you would decide to flash the BIOS with an update, be sure to read the information and becareful so not anything goes wrong.

Avoid Intel, their processors are more expensive and the company is not so friendly. ;)

http://www.fsf.org/c.../free-bios.html
If the motherboard supports FreeBIOS / LinuxBIOS then that is great! :)