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#1 OFFLINE   Leon01

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 04:08 PM

This is my first posting so hopefully someone can help an oap with some non technical advice. I have managed to recover deleted files from an sd memory card but cannot now reinstall them is there an easy way please? By the way I used recuva.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 04:28 PM

You will need to provide some additional information.
What types of files are these?
And exactly what do you mean by install them? Copy them over? Or actually run them?
What O/S are you using?
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 04:53 PM

View PostKeatah, on 09 July 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

You will need to provide some additional information.
What types of files are these?
And exactly what do you mean by install them? Copy them over? Or actually run them?
What O/S are you using?
The files are actually photos and I would like to put them back on SD card they were on originally. My O/S is windows XP service pack 3. Thank you for your interest.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:54 PM

the card might be damaged, move everything off of it and format it
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:14 PM

View PostNergal, on 09 July 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

the card might be damaged, move everything off of it and format it
Thank you for your reply. I have have tried your suggestion on two different SD cards without success and also tried to get recovered photos onto My Documents without success. Is this Recuva all it is cracked up to be?

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:27 PM

where did you recover the files too? I am,of course, assuming that you've recovered the files and now are attempting to copy/move them to their new location(s).

have you attempted to open the recovered files?  what status were they (red, yellow, green) in recuva?
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:33 PM

You may need something more powerful, like:

GetDataBack
Adroit Photo Recovery
Test Disk & PhotoRec
Rescue PRO Deluxe
Ontrack Easy Recovery Pro 6

It really depends on what damaged the files in the first place, and exactly how they are damaged.
In this case of working with a flash memory card. Be aware that the card may re-arrange data for wear leveling and thus make what is on there completely unrecoverable. Depending on the card, just leaving it plugged in could cause the data to get scrambled. A good thing is to make a clone image of it and work off that.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:44 PM

View PostKeatah, on 10 July 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

You may need something more powerful, like:

GetDataBack
Adroit Photo Recovery
Test Disk & PhotoRec
Rescue PRO Deluxe
Ontrack Easy Recovery Pro 6

It really depends on what damaged the files in the first place, and exactly how they are damaged.
In this case of working with a flash memory card. Be aware that the card may re-arrange data for wear leveling and thus make what is on there completely unrecoverable. Depending on the card, just leaving it plugged in could cause the data to get scrambled. A good thing is to make a clone image of it and work off that.
I have no problem recovering the photos I just cannot get them to transfer to another SD card or even my pc.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:02 PM

When you say .."I have no problem recovering the photos I just cannot get them to transfer to another SD card or even my pc." This tells me, specifically, that you have safely recovered and saved the photos to a new disk or card. And then you say you can't transfer them to another SD card or your PC. This now tells me the recovery operation is not effective. Or that you are having major problems with the o/s. 2 contradictory statements here. We need to be exact in our discussion.

Are you just seeing filenames? It's possible to see filenames and yet have no data (or fragmented data) attached to them. In that case you'll need good filecarving software. GetDataBack or Adroit Photo Rec could work well here.

Note that Recuva is generally used to read files from the corrupted media and, one-by-one, copy what it can to your main PC.

Sorry to argue semantics here, but computers are very specific beasts and there is no room for error in data recovery ops. Data recovery procedures are very dynamic depending on the situation. I will not guess or assume anything here.

Please answer the following questions so we can take it from the top:

1- How was the SD card in question damaged?
2- What file system is on the SD card? Fat? Fat32? NTFS?
3- Did you use Recuva to read from the SD card and save to your main hard disk?
4- What were the colors of the files when you ran Recuva?
5- Exactly how are you trying to copy the files from the failed SD card?
6- What error occurs when you try to copy them to the PC?

Depending on how you answer we may have more questions.

Also, if you "recovered" the images, then you should be able to open up a windows file explorer, click on a picture, and see it full screen. Are you able to do that? If not then what do you mean by "recovered"? Please be specific.

I'm also not ruling out malware yet. Let's proceed carefully here.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:16 PM

View PostKeatah, on 10 July 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

When you say .."I have no problem recovering the photos I just cannot get them to transfer to another SD card or even my pc." This tells me, specifically, that you have safely recovered and saved the photos to a new disk or card. And then you say you can't transfer them to another SD card or your PC. This now tells me the recovery operation is not effective. Or that you are having major problems with the o/s. 2 contradictory statements here. We need to be exact in our discussion.

Are you just seeing filenames? It's possible to see filenames and yet have no data (or fragmented data) attached to them. In that case you'll need good filecarving software. GetDataBack or Adroit Photo Rec could work well here.

Note that Recuva is generally used to read files from the corrupted media and, one-by-one, copy what it can to your main PC.

Sorry to argue semantics here, but computers are very specific beasts and there is no room for error in data recovery ops. Data recovery procedures are very dynamic depending on the situation. I will not guess or assume anything here.

Please answer the following questions so we can take it from the top:

1- How was the SD card in question damaged?
2- What file system is on the SD card? Fat? Fat32? NTFS?
3- Did you use Recuva to read from the SD card and save to your main hard disk?
4- What were the colors of the files when you ran Recuva?
5- Exactly how are you trying to copy the files from the failed SD card?
6- What error occurs when you try to copy them to the PC?

Depending on how you answer we may have more questions.
I have now finally managed to transfer recovered files to my pc. The SD card was originally deleted accidently in the camera. Is it now possible to transfer these same files back to an SD card? Sorry for being so thick

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:50 PM

View PostLeon01, on 10 July 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

I have now finally managed to transfer recovered files to my pc. The SD card was originally deleted accidently in the camera. Is it now possible to transfer these same files back to an SD card? Sorry for being so thick

Leon, I had a similar problem not being able to transfer files to a card. Check for a write protect tab. Sometimes they have them on a card, sometimes on a USB adapter the card sits into, in order to read it to your PC.

In my case, I had to carefully attach a very narrow band of scotch tape to hold the tab in open position to keep it from closing on insert. It worked great!

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:20 PM

View PostSuper Fast, on 10 July 2012 - 08:50 PM, said:

Leon, I had a similar problem not being able to transfer files to a card. Check for a write protect tab. Sometimes they have them on a card, sometimes on a USB adapter the card sits into, in order to read it to your PC. In my case, I had to carefully attach a very narrow band of scotch tape to hold the tab in open position to keep it from closing on insert. It worked great!
I doubt it because

View PostLeon01, on 10 July 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

.also tried to get recovered photos onto My Documents without success.
but it doesn't hurt to try
I believe my

View PostNergal, on 10 July 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

where did you recover the files too? I am,of course, assuming that you've recovered the files and now are attempting to copy/move them to their new location(s). have you attempted to open the recovered files? what status were they (red, yellow, green) in recuva?
may have been overlooked in Keatah's posts.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:56 PM

If you now have all the pictures on the computer, in a folder, on the desktop for example, that's fine!
If the reason for the memory card "failure" was a user mistake, i.e. you deleted them in the camera on accident, then yes. The memory card is probably just fine and not the cause of (almost) data loss. Putting them back on a memory card shouldn't be an issue

When I transfer files back and forth between memory cards and my system I just use two windows file explorer windows. And I just drag and drop them as needed. From one window to another. From computer hard drive to camera memory card, and the other way around too.

As mentioned above, check to be sure you can open and view each and every photo. Full screen, not a thumbnail, on your computer, without the memory card connected.

When we are done here, it might be a good idea to format the memory card *IN* the camera. This will ensure the underlying filesystem in the memory card is the right one. Computers can adapt and be updated to read all kinds of formats. Cameras can only work with 1 kind.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 04:39 AM

View PostKeatah, on 10 July 2012 - 10:56 PM, said:

If you now have all the pictures on the computer, in a folder, on the desktop for example, that's fine!
If the reason for the memory card "failure" was a user mistake, i.e. you deleted them in the camera on accident, then yes. The memory card is probably just fine and not the cause of (almost) data loss. Putting them back on a memory card shouldn't be an issue

When I transfer files back and forth between memory cards and my system I just use two windows file explorer windows. And I just drag and drop them as needed. From one window to another. From computer hard drive to camera memory card, and the other way around too.

As mentioned above, check to be sure you can open and view each and every photo. Full screen, not a thumbnail, on your computer, without the memory card connected.

When we are done here, it might be a good idea to format the memory card *IN* the camera. This will ensure the underlying filesystem in the memory card is the right one. Computers can adapt and be updated to read all kinds of formats. Cameras can only work with 1 kind.
Thanks, I have successfully restored files to SD card using your drag and drop method quite simple when you know how. I am very grateful to you and others who offered help it is nice to know someone out there is available. Best wishes to all.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:46 PM

View PostNergal, on 10 July 2012 - 09:20 PM, said:

I doubt it because

Leon01, on 10 July 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:

.also tried to get recovered photos onto My Documents without success.

Glad he got it fixed!

I was unsure whether he had a software or hardware blockage at first, because of this statement he made earlier: -> I have no problem recovering the photos I just cannot get them to transfer to another SD card or even my pc.

Write protected devices will let you copy, or even undelete files from them to another location as far as I am aware, because that is a read & not a write.
While this seems not to have been his problem, I put it out there just in case that it was. I have seen a few drives that have hardware lock sliders on them that block all writes, but allow all reads until you unlock it via the slide bar. Kind of like write protection that floppies used to have.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:30 AM

wrong operation,.maybe. :(