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[kroozer]

Chunker said:

Defraggler is completely worthless. It takes hours and hours to do a simple defrag . . .

I don't know why you are having so much difficulty. I have these items ☑ ticked
and run a file defrag weekly.
It takes only seconds and the result is always zero frag.

[moeburn]

I'd just like to point out that the reason the System Volume Information folder size suddenly expands is because you probably have 100GB of free space assigned to System Restore.  When defragging, this free space is assigned as used space so that the chunk of free space that System Restore uses will stay together, unfragmented.  It should, however, revert back to free space afterwards.

[kroozer]

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. . . you probably have 100GB of free space assigned to System Restore.

By default Windows allocates a max size for shadow storage, which you can adjust. On this pc(Win7) it's tweaked to 20.625GB with the command

vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /For=C: /On=C: /Maxsize=20.625GB

or adjusting the slider in SystemProperties\SystemProtection\Configure\DiskSpaceUsage.

I have a 1TB HDD, the C: volume I shrank to 96GB. Doing so did not decrease the default SystemRestore allocation, so I tweaked it as above.

The VSS expands as a precaution in the rare event defrag messes a file. I performed a test once and discovered that during defrag the RestorePoints remained the same number, it only expanded the VSS total size.

I'd like to know the source of your info as to

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When defragging, this free space is assigned as used space so that the chunk of free space that System Restore uses will stay together, unfragmented. It should, however, revert back to free space afterwards.

cos that's new to me.

Regardless, if you follow my directions in post 21 above, and finish with a BootTimeDefrag, you should see a frag count of less than 1%.

[tomsvl]

Hi,  I have had the same problem, and looking here, tried the remedys without success.
My fragmentation was going up every time.  it went from 41% to 51% after 3 defrags.
I remembered that system restore was taking up all my hard drive space in the past, and had to turn it off  to regain space as it just keeps recopying your drive.  I tried it here and it worked.  Down fro 51% to 3%.
Just turn off system restore and turn it back on.
Hope it helps
tom

[Nergal]

tomsvl, on 17 July 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

Hi,  I have had the same problem, and looking here, tried the remedys without success.
My fragmentation was going up every time.  it went from 41% to 51% after 3 defrags.
I remembered that system restore was taking up all my hard drive space in the past, and had to turn it off  to regain space as it just keeps recopying your drive.  I tried it here and it worked.  Down fro 51% to 3%.
Just turn off system restore and turn it back on.
Hope it helps
tom

This is defeating advice as turning off system restore will dump all existing restore points

[Butterflee]

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kroozer, on 11 July 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

I don't know why you are having so much difficulty. I have these items ☑ ticked
and run a file defrag weekly.
It takes only seconds and the result is always zero frag.

I just did this and nothiced that my amount fragmented when from Gigs to MB (the problem was with "system volume inofrmation". what what does checking on "stop VSS" do excatly?

[Super Fast]

Stopping VSS blocks Volume Shadow Services from making copies in the background as you defraggle.

[Butterflee]

Super Fast, on 29 July 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

Stopping VSS blocks Volume Shadow Services from making copies in the background as you defraggle.

So is that the reason I lost a few gigs after defragging?

[Nergal]

Butterflee, on 29 July 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

So is that the reason I lost a few gigs after defragging?

yes VSS and Sys restore go crazy during third party defragging, which out these settings.

[Butterflee]

Nergal, on 29 July 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

yes VSS and Sys restore go crazy during third party defragging, which out these settings.

Thanks, I was wondering why I lost around 7 gigs a few days ago. (no big deal because I still have over 380+ of free space)

[Alan_B]

Butterflee, on 29 July 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

Thanks, I was wondering why I lost around 7 gigs a few days ago. (no big deal because I still have over 380+ of free space)

Greetings Fellow Spirit.
I too can obsess over 2% of Free Space
(That is why I use CCleaner).

[Butterflee]

Alan_B, on 30 July 2012 - 03:13 AM, said:

Greetings Fellow Spirit.
I too can obsess over 2% of Free Space
(That is why I use CCleaner).

CCleaner only cleaned a few megs (I mostly use private browsing, force of habit). So the gigs I lost had to be some sort of shadow stuff