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[nodles]

DDR4 memory in 2014 for servers & in 2015 for desktops: http://vr-zone.com/a...014-/15441.html
JEDEC announcement: http://www.jedec.org...g-ddr4-standard

[hazelnut]

Things seem to move fast now don't they ? Probably cost a bit.

I've only just managed to get extra DDR3  ram for my laptop.  Bought 8 gig DDR3 from Crucial for £28. A neighbour bought the 3 gig I had had in it for their laptop which couldn't take more than 4..

[kroozer]

That's $44.50 USD, a good price. Have you noticed a substantial improvement?  

On 24 Jan PNY had a bargain offer of 8GB DDR3 desktop for $30. Soon the price went back to $60. I'm using only 25% or less of my 6GB so figured another 8 would make little difference.

[hazelnut]

I've only had the 8 gig for a few days kroozer so not really evaluated any improvement yet as I've been busy doing something on an xp machine the last couple of days.

However it does seem snappier

[Super Fast]

hazelnut, on 04 April 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:

Things seem to move fast now don't they ? Probably cost a bit.

I've only just managed to get extra DDR3  ram for my laptop.

This may seem fast, but unless I am wrong, it is my understanding there is yet faster, & has been for some time. DDR4 is not bad, but DDR5 also exists & is faster. Faster than Double Data Rate ram is GDDR, or Graphic Double Data Rate ram.

While a lot of GDDR is used in high end video cards from ATI & others, there are also other uses for it, or will be in the future as prices come down.
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My understanding is that GDDR5 is the fastest of the lot, & way faster than DDR1 through 5, or GDDR 1 through 4.

I can't wait till GDDR5 becomes standard for system memory, & 16 core CPU machines are the norm. Unless, they skip to something faster like XD Ram or something...
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I still think they should include on all mechanical drives, a second spindle & miniature board for emergency use & data recovery where you can flip a tab & the secondary arm will take over. Allow you to recover data on a "dead" drive before you have to toss it. It would save the majority of trouble on "dead" or "dying"  HDD drives, & might even enable careful people to use the drives far longer before chunking them! Not to mention the savings for HDD recovery labs (IF it can be recovered at all!)

* My wishlist for future computers

- GDDR10 @ 100 GHZ (Not invented yet)
- 128 TB RAM with 3d HD holographic programs, games, human interaction. For instance, in shooting games, you have a realisting gun, while in driving games, you have a steering wheel/brake/ windshield, etc. Easier to play the game with more natural things. Also, ability to live stream your town map so each play on a game like Halo or Gears of war, etc so it doesn't look so artificial, and so the play will be more realistic with actual real 3d holographic bushes to hide behind, etc.
-  5 GB buffer HDD drives with 100 TB storage
- 1,024 bit OS with 1,000 core processors at 1,000 GHZ each with 100 MB ram each
- 100 GB video ram
- All replaceable parts. Small MOBO with USB ports. USB 15 or so, instead of USB3, so that you can plug in extra ram via usb, extra HDD, extra monitor. Everything. Even wireless monitors. And it would be far faster than USB3.
- Desktop machines with WIFI receivers built in just like laptops.
- System files locked & passworded so NOTHING can alter or change system areas without password & block all virus attempts to access system areas (almost all malware does try to change system areas). This would kill 99% of malware & viruses, since they have no way to attack or run without running as/in system areas as a hidden file to avoid detection. It would also make malware clean up easier since there are far fewer areas to hide.
- Instant mouseover map that shows on every EXE what processes, registry keys, EXE, EVERYTHING that is going to be run if/when you click next, with the option to run it with any of the options disabled. Being able to see everything will let you see, hey! This program wants to delete this, or run this, whatever. No, it doesn't look safe. So I will delete it!

- If MS will protect all system areas in future versions of windows such that the ONLY way anything can be changed, moved, deleted is to put in the correct password, then it will deny viruses, malware, etc access when they request it. Bad, anyway, for any program to have access to system areas by default. System attributes should not be changeable without a password either. Because malware attempts to use that. Registry should be password protected, & used only for system processes.

If necessary, create a secondary User registry that stores program settings, but i like most of all, the idea of keeping all settings for a program inside the folder with the program so that when you remove it, all the things associated with the program are gone & never need cleaning. This will stop all registry cleanup problems, slow downs, fragmentation, & err from user changes.

[The New Guy]

Well, Super Fast, you're looking forward into the future! Maybe even better - if you could do those things yourself!! ...speeds up the availability! I actually like the idea of yours; virtual gaming...I'd love to own my own.. yeah.But I'd probably be in my 60s or after I die before any of that will happen... and I'll probably be too old for games then...

I don't believe there's GDDR or GDDR 2, it only starts at GDDR 3 and up...unless I'm mistaken...I've never seen a graphics card that gives off GDDR 1 or GDDR 2 memory before... Only DDR or DDR2 or even SDRAM as far as I know.

And those password protection security might actually work...but if there's a keylogger(that was silently installed on your system) - then no, it won't last long though....but if you're computer don't have keyloggers, then great - it will work 100%!

[nodles]

http://investors.mic...eleaseID=670776

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As JEDEC finalizes the DDR4 specifications, Micron is positioned to quickly become fully compliant with its 30nm 4Gb DDR4 part. Full sampling to key partners began earlier this year and volume production is planned for 4Q12.

http://vr-zone.com/a...-us-/15552.html

Edited by nodles, 08 May 2012 - 09:17 AM.

[nodles]

http://www.teamgroup...616/a2rdfT.html

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Team Group leads the industry by launching Limited Edition Xtreem DDR3 3000 CL11

[nodles]

Samsung Samples Industry’s First 16-Gigabyte Server Modules Based on DDR4 Memory technology

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Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., the world leader in advanced memory technology, today announced that it has begun sampling the industry's first 16-gigabyte (GB) double data rate-4 (DDR4), registered dual inline memory modules (RDIMMs), designed for use in enterprise server systems.

[nodles]

JEDEC Publishes DDR4 Memory Standard

[nodles]

New DDR4 DRAM modules are expected to ship in late 2013 (from Crucial).

[Nergal]

wait but I haven't even gotten a machine that runs ddr3 yet

[Alana]

They have had GDDR5 & XDRAM for years in some devices (Graphics cards?).

I just wonder how long it will be before system RAM catches up...

GDDR is faster than DDR, isn't it?