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Piriform Apps Dropped from Ninite - by Piriform's Request


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#1 OFFLINE CTskifreak

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 01:00 AM

http://www.reddit.co..._cclean_speccy/

Just curious as to why this happened.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 01:18 AM

So am I CTskfreak.

One comment on there which drew my attention was the fact that IF it was because of the toolbar, people who use Ninite are the kind of people who wouldn't install the toolbars anyway, That is so true.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 03:54 AM

As the title says. What's up with that?

I've introduced many people to Piriform's apps over the last year via Ninite. These people love how easy Ninite makes installation and updates -- and they all HATE toolbars and other CRAP programs try to load.

Now that Piriform's apps are history, anyone have suggested replacements? I'd prefer something already supported in Ninite, or Ninite could be convinced to support.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 04:32 AM


Now that Piriform's apps are history,


I think that remark is a bit over the top. The people who use Ninite are not your average user don't forget, and the apps are still available via the Piriform website. You can always download the slim versions or just decline the toolbar.

I doubt this forum will start listing suggestions for replacements for its own products

As there is already an ongoing topic about this I will move this.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 05:49 PM

I always wondered who's thick enough to not uncheck a toolbar checkbox during any instillation. Now I know.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 06:36 PM

Let them cry; there are thousands of other people loyal to Piriform's brilliant products. It's rather annoying to see people act so spoiled.

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Posted 19 October 2011 - 02:42 AM

Another possibility for such a Piriform request is that a Ninite error when it installs CCleaner might result in damage that could be blamed on Piriform.

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Posted 19 October 2011 - 08:47 AM

I think piriform just doesn't want their installer mirrored (or modified, I think ninite REMOVES extra installers from normal ones)

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 01:59 PM

I have been a long time fan of CCleaner and recommend it frequently. I am also the coordinator of an education program that teaches computers to seniors. I also recommend our students use ninite.com as a simple way to get excellent programs and have them installed without the massive experience required by directly installing them.

Not having CCleaner (and the other piriform) program available through ninite.com is a real dis-service to our students (as well as the rest of us). I implore piriform and ninite to resolve their issues and add the piriform programs back on ninite.

It is really as shame to see two excellent programs/services not cooperate.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 03:13 PM

Hi,

We like the Ninite product for it's simple use to update and install products. Unfortunately they're selling it as a Pro version, so are making money from our free products. However we're chatting with them to come up with a solution.

:)

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 09:00 PM

Thanks for letting us know what it's really about Mr.G. (Strange, I never addressed anyone as Mr.G before.) Now I know what the real concerns are in the matter.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 09:25 PM

Ah, that makes sense. Glad you guys can work things out in a civil manner :)

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 09:42 PM

Hi,

We like the Ninite product for it's simple use to update and install products. Unfortunately they're selling it as a Pro version, so are making money from our free products. However we're chatting with them to come up with a solution.

:)

MrG


Suggestion:
-Allow piriform products for free in the free ninite version and pro versions only in the pro version (I assume your pro products require introducing an activation key).

I'm confused however I always assumed ninite pro was just a more complete way to update software/freeware with more features.
If both versions allow downloading the same stuff that is freeware they are still just making a download from your website directly (as far as I understand it its the same as any user going to your website and downloading it) or not!?

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 10:58 PM

the idea is they're making money off freeware, which is never meant to cost money.

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 08:12 AM

There is no "pro" CCleaner (paid version), just a free version. Same with all Piriform apps.

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:12 PM

The "pro" one is for support from Piriform (the developers, not the forums)

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 01:05 PM

I teach computers at a community center in California to seniors and immigrants who have never used computers before. I've introduced your product to hundreds of these students through Ninite over the last year. The simplicity that Ninite offers in installing you product to these first-timers is what made it so successful in my class.

I saw "lbweber" up there has a similar situation. Obviously there is a whole market out there who would otherwise never use your product that you just fail to understand. Unfortunately I will have to drop your product and support whatever takes your place next on Ninite.

Good luck

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 10:23 PM

Amazingly short-sighted decision making. A service like ninite, (whether the free or the paid version) is simply helping to spread the use of your program, and therefore your brand-name because the people who use ninite can get the program on their (Or their customer's) computer quickly and easliy, without having to go to several websites when they're getting a system configured for use.

I can't help but think that Piriform's decision on this is just Dumb - Dumb - Dumb...but that's just my opinion :o)

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 10:53 PM

And that basically covers your intellect as well. Have fun living life. I'll never see you again. Buh bye.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 01:21 AM

I also teach Seniors (which I am one myself) as a Volunteer at an aged care home + am involved in Australia's Broadband for Seniors Federal Government Program ( again as a volunteer) however I do not use Ninite.

I prefer to teach (perhaps some might say the long way) my students to install software (free or otherwise) direct from the providers web site.

As Mr. G has told all what has really happened and Piriform are attempting to factor a solution for all, how about we now all remember something my Father taught me "before putting mouth into gear, put brain into gear". What a shame someone did not ask Mr. G for his valuable input from day one.

Hang in there folks, at the end of the day Piriform will do it's best for all concerned.......thanks Piriform keep up the good work.
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