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Nov 3 2009, 01:41 PM
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Sysinternals' MoveFile can be used to schedule the file to be moved/deleted at reboot before anything gets a handle on it.
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Nov 3 2009, 10:57 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 27-November 07 From: Michigan, U.S.A. Member No.: 17,331 |
Sysinternals' MoveFile can be used to schedule the file to be moved/deleted at reboot before anything gets a handle on it. Deleting the folder at reboot is probably the way to go. I could only recommend killbox as an app that could do this. You have to trust a program to run at boot. Good find on a second app. They may use different methods and one may work. -------------------- Documentation...CCleaner, Defraggler and Recuva
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Nov 4 2009, 12:01 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 31-August 09 From: UK Member No.: 31,469 |
Deleting the folder at reboot is probably the way to go. MoveFile just uses the standard Windows 'PendingFileRename' registry keys ... you could enter the details manually in the registry if you really want to. It's the same mechanism Windows itself uses to move or rename files. So it's not so much a program running at startup, as supplying filenames to the out-of-the-box Windows start-up functionality. Not sure if it works at folder level too though. I've never used killbox, but as you say it might well incorporate the same mechanism. This is a good little app for seeing what moves are pending without having to dig around in the registry ... http://exodusdev.com/products/whyreboot (although it was written for a slightly different purpose). Oh and incidentally it's also the same mechanism that ccleaner uses to remove temp internet index.dat files. |
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Nov 4 2009, 12:20 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 27-November 07 From: Michigan, U.S.A. Member No.: 17,331 |
How do you use PendMoves v1.1 and MoveFile v1.0.
Are they Vista compatible? Thanks for WhyReboot thats a cool little app. that will come in handy. -------------------- Documentation...CCleaner, Defraggler and Recuva
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Nov 4 2009, 12:41 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 31-August 09 From: UK Member No.: 31,469 |
How do you use PendMoves v1.1 and MoveFile v1.0. Are they Vista compatible? They're both just simple command-line apps ... the usage is given at the end of the linked page posted earlier. PendMoves is effectively just a command-line version of WhyReboot. MoveFile always needs two parameters ... the first is the file to be moved/deleted and the second is either the new file name if the file is to be moved, or "" if the file is to be deleted. As far as I know they should work on Vista ... easy enough to try PendMoves and see if that runs okay |
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Nov 4 2009, 12:54 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 27-November 07 From: Michigan, U.S.A. Member No.: 17,331 |
The command-line window just flashes open & closed.
Must not be Vista compatible given the release date of "Published: November 1, 2006". Thanks again -------------------- Documentation...CCleaner, Defraggler and Recuva
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Nov 4 2009, 01:35 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 31-August 09 From: UK Member No.: 31,469 |
The command-line window just flashes open & closed. Must not be Vista compatible given the release date of "Published: November 1, 2006". Thanks again You have to open a command window (just type cmd in the run box) and then run it from inside there. You also need to be in the right folder for your exe location (or put in the system directory since that path is always available). Type 'PendMoves at the command prompt. The date shouldn't be an issue, assuming Vista still uses the same registry locations. |
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Nov 4 2009, 01:56 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 27-November 07 From: Michigan, U.S.A. Member No.: 17,331 |
Makes sense now that I understand I need to run the command-line app through a command window.
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Nov 4 2009, 09:42 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 31-August 09 From: UK Member No.: 31,469 |
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Nov 4 2009, 12:31 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 27-November 07 From: Michigan, U.S.A. Member No.: 17,331 |
I haven't used command-line much so this is a learning curve for me.
I extracted the PendMoves folder to Program Files. Opened a command window (Run as Admin for Vista) cd "\Program Files\" C:\Program Files>cd Pendmoves C:\Program Files\Pendmoves>pendmoves.exe This worked for Pendmoves. Can you give me an example for MoveFile? Do I need navigate to folders or show a path? 1) To move a file. 2) To delete a file. TIA -------------------- Documentation...CCleaner, Defraggler and Recuva
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Nov 4 2009, 12:33 PM
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![]() Lets Get Dangerous ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,440 Joined: 28-October 06 From: QLD,Australia Member No.: 7,801 |
and you could give unlocker a go as well http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/
NOTE: If you are using IE you may get a big red warning blocking access. http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/T...tID=-2147338578 All it is is optional shortcuts to ebay, Microsoft think its a severe issue lol. and this virustotal scan shows it's clean aswell (except NOD32 sees the adware) http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/4e04619...3cb4-1257337629 -------------------- |
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Nov 4 2009, 02:56 PM
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I haven't used command-line much so this is a learning curve for me. No worries Can you give me an example for MoveFile? Do I need navigate to folders or show a path? 1) To move a file. 2) To delete a file. Okay. To make sure your exe is picked up easily, stick PendMoves and MoveFile in your system32 directory for now. This means that no matter what folder your command window opens at, the OS will be able to find the MoveFile exe easily. To do a move, create a file something like c:\movetest.txt in explorer. Then do: MoveFile c:\movetest.txt c:\moved.txt (If your folder/file has spaces in it you'll need quotes around the name ... eg MoveFile "c:\my movetest.txt" c:\moved.txt) Run both PendMoves and WhyReboot and you should now see this listed for a move. To do a delete, create a file something like c:\delete.txt in explorer. Then do: MoveFile c:\delete.txt "" Run both PendMoves and WhyReboot and you should also now see this listed for deletion. Reboot and see what happens! Rather than c:\movetest.txt and c:\delete.txt, you should now just have c:\moved.txt Obviously if either of these were locked, it would enable them to be (re)moved at reboot. My example files were conveniently located in c:\ ... longer paths are a pain to type in. One really useful tool for getting the path to a file is PathCopyEx (http://www.mlin.net/other.shtml), which adds a Windows explorer context menu 'Copy Path to Clipboard' for copying the selected file or folder path. One of the most useful context menu entries ever. |
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Nov 5 2009, 03:22 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 27-November 07 From: Michigan, U.S.A. Member No.: 17,331 |
@marmite/Thanks
Works like a charm and will come in handy. @Skywired I thought we should rule out some more easy fixes. 1) Drag and Drop to Desktop and delete. 2) Cut and Paste to Desktop and delete. 3) Sometimes memory can hold on to a file or folder even if rebooted. Shutdown your pc and wait two minutes, then startup and try to delete the folder. 4) Defrag 5) chkdsk 6)How to take ownership of a file or a folder in Windows XP Are you still there Skywired? -------------------- Documentation...CCleaner, Defraggler and Recuva
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Nov 6 2009, 12:20 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 27-November 07 From: Michigan, U.S.A. Member No.: 17,331 |
The following is advice from the Tech at work.
Download Ubuntu which is a free operating system by Linux. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download Burn the ISO image file to a CD. http://filehippo.com/download_imgburn/ Leave CD in drive and reboot. The Ubuntu program offers the option of using the operating system as a demo directly from the CD, without an installation or change to the computer settings. Once booted up into the Ubuntu operating system, go to "Places" in the top menu bar and delete any file or folder at will. Use with care because you can delete without Windows rules and permissions. You wouldn't want to delete something like your Windows XP operating system. If you think this could be some type of malware, virus or rootkit you should visit the Spyware Hell section of the forum. http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showforum=12 Read and do as much as you can before you post. http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=20120 Good Luck! -------------------- Documentation...CCleaner, Defraggler and Recuva
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Nov 6 2009, 12:28 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 31-August 09 From: UK Member No.: 31,469 |
Once booted up into the Ubuntu operating system, go to "Places" in the top menu bar and delete any file or folder at will. Use with care because you can delete without Windows rules and permissions. You wouldn't want to delete something like your Windows XP operating system. If you think this could be some type of malware, virus or rootkit you should visit the Spyware Hell section of the forum. Agree with the above. I hadn't thought of that and I'll add it to my ideas list The only thing that concerns me about the general principle is that files get locked (or have their access permissions changed) for a reason. I've never yet been unable to delete a file without good reason ... like that it's an essential operating system file. In a healthy (non-infected) system there's pretty-well always a service or an exe or a driver you can disable at start-up (as usual, used with care Sysinternals autoruns is excellent for this). If you resort to a boot cd any old time you get a locked file, without considering or being aware of what you're deleting, there is a possibility of messing up your installation ... so I fully echo the comment in Jamin4u's post about taking care! But ... this method wouldn't seem be a problem in this instance. |
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Nov 6 2009, 01:13 PM
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The only thing that concerns me is that files get locked (or have their access permissions changed) for a reason. I've never yet been unable to delete a file without good reason ... Yet, an "important system file" should not be stored in a temporary directory. +1 to the Ubuntu bootdisk idea if all the above fails. -------------------- |
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Nov 6 2009, 01:57 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 31-August 09 From: UK Member No.: 31,469 |
The only thing that concerns me is that files get locked (or have their access permissions changed) for a reason. Yet, an "important system file" should not be stored in a temporary directory. Absolutely, which is why I then said ... But ... this method wouldn't seem be a problem in this instance. The point I was making is about the general principle of using this method for 'any locked file file' ... original post now tweaked for clarity |
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Nov 6 2009, 10:17 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 31-October 09 Member No.: 32,818 |
think your problem is the flash cookie,,,did you try flash cookie cleaner,,,but after a couple of ckicls his comes back . Thanks for the ideas, but ...so i guess what you need is to set include and exclude in ccleaner. Flash cookie cleaner has no effect. Same is true for include and exclude in ccleaner |
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Nov 6 2009, 10:54 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 31-October 09 Member No.: 32,818 |
WHOA ... until my last reply, I didn't realize there is a "Page 2" to this thread.
UPDATE:
I retried various options w/ Unlocker and was able to Move the offending folders to a folder I named JUNK. However, I was unable to move it to Recycle Bin or to a Compact Flash Card. NEXT: I'm going to attempt to "process and absorb" page 2. This may take some time as I've got much going on outside of this issue right now. I'm vastly appreciative of all the help. Thanks to all of you. I'll post my next moves as soon as I'm able. |
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Nov 6 2009, 11:57 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 31-October 09 Member No.: 32,818 |
If you use Malwarebytes Anti-Malware you could try FileASSASSIN under more tools. Aside from my "sonic cookie" issue, I'm curious about Malwarebytes. I ran it's Scan function and it comes up w/ some same issues, but also w/ more issues than SpyBot. I'm needing feedback from those more computer literate than me (everybody here):Is this program, Malwarebytes, trustworthy? Any comments?
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