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#1 OFFLINE   hello2007

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 04:30 PM

it never catches anything ever since i had it for 6 months while my other protection programs have. it also auto scans everday while my other programs dont and it still doesn't catch anything so why is it that so much people think highly of it? windows firewall doesnt seem to be great either but im cool with it since im not interested of downloading another firewall after a disaster i just had
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Posted 19 July 2009 - 05:44 PM

It's actually caught a few things on a number of computers I've helped fix over the last few months, so it can't be that bad. :)
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 05:09 PM

Its definitely not the best anti-spyware program out there, but not the worst either.


Check out MalwareBytes Anti-Malware if you haven't already.


Also, just because it doesn't find things, doesn't necessarily make it bad, could be due to you being careful with your PC security.
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 06:12 PM

Who said it was rated high? But I guess its better than nothing. SAS or MBAM are much superior
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Posted 21 July 2009 - 01:44 AM

if you purchase malware bytes for 25$ is that a lifetime subscription?

how good is their online protection?
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Posted 21 July 2009 - 01:36 PM

I think it is but not 100% sure

Their protection should be the best
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Posted 24 July 2009 - 12:10 AM

there protection is very good but is there online protection the same? because i have ad-aware and im wondering which 1 is better online protection. I think there is a difference with on demand and online. Just because 1 is good on demand doesn't mean its good with real-time as well. Or am i wrong?
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Posted 24 July 2009 - 05:34 AM

Frankly, I would have nothing to do with AdAware. (But then, I was put totally off it after poor experiences with it and their forum some time back.)
Nothing in any reviews/reports/recommendations etc I've read recently makes me want to try it again. There are at least two so much better alternatives. (SAS and MBAM.)

Avast does an above-average job. Why not hang on to Avast, leave Windows Defender running, and perform an occasional demand scan with MBAM, just to verify your security strategy is working?

Alternatives to the Comodo Firewall include the straightforward PCTools firewall, and Online Armour. I use the former. Never a problem. I've read good reports about the latter. The support is supposed to be good, too.

Making sure that scripts are not automatically allowed to run in the browser, especially from across different sites, is also an important protection. (The Noscript add-on for Firefox has, I'm sure, prevented heaps of nasties infesting those users who have it installed.)

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 06:48 AM

im going to stick with windows firewall. I'm scared to install another firewall after the comodo disaster
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Posted 24 July 2009 - 09:19 AM

View Posthello2007, on Jul 21 2009, 01:44 AM, said:

if you purchase malware bytes for 25$ is that a lifetime subscription?

how good is their online protection?


Yes it is lifetime

Its the best malware protection allround that you can get
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Posted 24 July 2009 - 10:38 AM

Nothing wrong with the Vista firewall, from what I've read. Bit complex to configure, apparently, so don't mess with it unless you have a tutorial.

One of the members of the Comodo forum wrote a script to help remove leftovers from a Comodo install. Don't know if it works for all versions. Did you read about it/run it?

I've attached it below, if you are interested. Have a look. To run it, just rename the extension from .txt to .bat, and it should clean any leftover reg entries. Caveat emptor

My own experience is that I had to delve into the registry and reset the permissions for certain keys before I could remove them. Bit more involved than I was used to doing, but it worked.

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 11:55 AM

is PCTools firewall any better than windows firewall. I looked it up and it seems fine but then again i heard alot of firewalls cause crashing and slowdowns on your computer
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Posted 27 July 2009 - 12:42 AM

Any two way firewall has the edge over a one way firewall, such as the Windows one.
The Windows firewall will very capably block unwanted stuff coming in. It's good at that. But if something comes in through your browser, that matches what was asked to be bought in, it won't block it, of course.
This would normally be the content of a webpage, a video, picture etc. It could also be a malicious script, or a download for something bad disguised as someting good.
Once the malware is on your machine, (assuming it gets past any other security programs installed, which it might if it's new, or the security program is poor) the outbound control of a two way firewall is your last chance to prevent the malware connecting outbound.
Hope that's clear.

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 03:21 AM

thanks tarq, so i take it you recommend pctools firewall over windows firewall
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Posted 27 July 2009 - 04:04 AM

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thanks tarq, so i take it you recommend pctools firewall over windows firewall
If you want that safety net, yes.
PCTools is one of the easier firewalls to set up. Good for beginners. It's application-based (like Comodo and Online Armour) rather than rules-based (like, say, Jetico).
Expect a lot of popups as it learns what is allowed to connect (and not.) Anything asking to connect that you are unsure of, "Google" the files name.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:32 AM

Hello, have a look this Results about firewalls and make your own decision. ;)

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 05:09 PM

View Postabu aufa, on Jul 27 2009, 10:32 PM, said:

Hello, have a look this Results about firewalls and make your own decision. ;)
I wonder if Online Armor in position #1 is exactly the same as Online Armor in position #6. The names and the version #s are identical except for "free" being added to description in position #6.

If they are identical, wonder why the difference in ratings.

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 02:57 PM

View Postabu aufa, on Jul 28 2009, 06:32 AM, said:

Hello, have a look this Results about firewalls and make your own decision. ;)

I can see all products were tested against a suite with 84 tests. I use Kaspersky and I see its highly rated. I'd Recommend it. I've never suffered from networks attacks to the point of crashing. A few shallow ones that are effectively blocked are encountered on a daily basis. Now on Windows Firewall, could I get the link containing the tests it passed to be highly rated. Having it is better than nothing though but free better firewalls are out there like Comodo Internet Security. :angry:

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 08:28 PM

View Posthello2007, on Jul 24 2009, 01:48 AM, said:

im going to stick with windows firewall. I'm scared to install another firewall after the comodo disaster

I had Comodo also, it was a pain but "do-able". Now using Agnitum outpost free ver. 6.5. It has been updated to 6.51, here. I'm using the old one cause it works OK.

It blocks outgoing packets, I don't think windows fwl does that. Outpost seems pretty good...it for sure blocks outgoing stuff if you tell it to. Has a pretty friendly "learning mode".

Pretty good info here. Tom AZ asked a question about the update here, as yet unanswered. I don't know either, but I bet it was because of an occasional freeze up which occurs when changing the application rules. That still happens on mine, but I'll live with it. <_<
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Posted 07 August 2009 - 03:31 AM

View Postrazz, on Aug 3 2009, 12:09 AM, said:

I wonder if Online Armor in position #1 is exactly the same as Online Armor in position #6. The names and the version #s are identical except for "free" being added to description in position #6.

If they are identical, wonder why the difference in ratings.

Maybe this Comparisons answered your wondering ;)