A strange issue
Started by thegfp, Apr 07 2009 06:10 PM
13 replies to this topic
#1 OFFLINE
Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:10 PM
i had this problem in mid 2007 and then it went away
now after a re-format and re-install of xp its back!
the jist is my pc will work fine all day long
but if i leave it for 10 mins and come back its frozen BUT the clocks still tell the right time and the mouse moves
then i wiggle the mouse and that stops and the clocks stop
ive tried 8 different virus progs and nothing
i thought it might be a memory issue and have swapped my 3 x 1gb ddr 2 5300 around and in and out of my 4 slots and no difference
ive tried monotoring the temps and they never got above 32c
i have been to many forums and again no ideas
its just weird that its all frozen but the clocks work
everything worked fine after the re-install for a bout a week then i changed my browsers in this order in the space of 5 days and when i got to IE8 thats when my problems started
IE6 to IE7 (just an update)
IE7 to Safari 4 beta (as i did not like IE7)
Safari 4 beta to Safari 3.2.2 (as 4 beta would not let me edit my ebay stuff)
Safari 3.2.2 to IE8 (as again safari does not work with ebay correctly)
IE8 to IE6 (as my issues started when i went to IE8)
ive used IE6 for years and only changed it as it said i should update
has anyone got any ideas?
now after a re-format and re-install of xp its back!
the jist is my pc will work fine all day long
but if i leave it for 10 mins and come back its frozen BUT the clocks still tell the right time and the mouse moves
then i wiggle the mouse and that stops and the clocks stop
ive tried 8 different virus progs and nothing
i thought it might be a memory issue and have swapped my 3 x 1gb ddr 2 5300 around and in and out of my 4 slots and no difference
ive tried monotoring the temps and they never got above 32c
i have been to many forums and again no ideas
its just weird that its all frozen but the clocks work
everything worked fine after the re-install for a bout a week then i changed my browsers in this order in the space of 5 days and when i got to IE8 thats when my problems started
IE6 to IE7 (just an update)
IE7 to Safari 4 beta (as i did not like IE7)
Safari 4 beta to Safari 3.2.2 (as 4 beta would not let me edit my ebay stuff)
Safari 3.2.2 to IE8 (as again safari does not work with ebay correctly)
IE8 to IE6 (as my issues started when i went to IE8)
ive used IE6 for years and only changed it as it said i should update
has anyone got any ideas?
#2 OFFLINE
Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:40 PM
I presume you have checked all your screensaver, hibernation and power saving settings?
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#3 OFFLINE
Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:51 PM
yes
scheme = home office
screensaver = none
turn off monotor, hard disc, system standby = never
hibernate = not ticked
also
as i built the pc myself i took the whole lot appart, cleaner and dusted it all and still does it
but ive just left it for 10 mins and came back and its working but all ive doen is this
http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?act=Se...sult_type=posts
i doubt that would cause it as i installed that to see if a virus was the issue after it started happening
scheme = home office
screensaver = none
turn off monotor, hard disc, system standby = never
hibernate = not ticked
also
as i built the pc myself i took the whole lot appart, cleaner and dusted it all and still does it
but ive just left it for 10 mins and came back and its working but all ive doen is this
http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?act=Se...sult_type=posts
i doubt that would cause it as i installed that to see if a virus was the issue after it started happening
#4 OFFLINE
Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:54 PM
It is not clear what your link is pointing to.
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#5 OFFLINE
Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:00 PM
a topic on this site about avira virus prog that has a hard to remove dead reg entry
#6 OFFLINE
Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:21 PM
You must mean this then
http://forum.pirifor...showtopic=21261
To get a link of a topic just go to the page with the topic on it and copy and paste the address into your post. You can always put which number post it was as well if you like.
http://forum.pirifor...showtopic=21261
To get a link of a topic just go to the page with the topic on it and copy and paste the address into your post. You can always put which number post it was as well if you like.
CCLEANER, RECUVA, DEFRAGGLER AND SPECCY DOCUMENTATION CAN BE FOUND HERE
http://www.piriform.com/docs
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#7 OFFLINE
Posted 08 April 2009 - 03:03 AM
yes
but that now i think about it was a side issue
just checked my pc again and i forgot that i use the onboard graphics card by NVIDIA and yet i still had my radeon 2400 pro card slotted in and ive not plugged anything into it so ive removed that and another card slotted in which was a 4x usb card
fingers crossed
but that now i think about it was a side issue
just checked my pc again and i forgot that i use the onboard graphics card by NVIDIA and yet i still had my radeon 2400 pro card slotted in and ive not plugged anything into it so ive removed that and another card slotted in which was a 4x usb card
fingers crossed
#8 OFFLINE
Posted 08 April 2009 - 02:03 PM
well it still does it
im just going to smash the entire lot up and teach it who is boss
there is no logical reason for it to just keep freezing
ive updated every driver
removed all no longer used hardware and software
im just going to smash the entire lot up and teach it who is boss
there is no logical reason for it to just keep freezing
ive updated every driver
removed all no longer used hardware and software
#9 OFFLINE
Posted 08 April 2009 - 02:33 PM
Have you tried testing the memory, to see if there's a problem there? I've never used this, but it's supposed to be good:
http://www.memtest.org/
There may be other third party ones, if you google them. This one you install on a CD or floppy, and if nothing else, it may elliminate the memory as the problem.
Reading your earlier posts, I take it you've binned IE8, with it being a strong suspect?
The fact that you've reinstalled should rule out Malware, but you could always make absolutely sure about that outside possibility by having a look over to our Spyware Hell section, and get some qualified advice.
http://forum.pirifor...showtopic=20120
A process of elimination is the only real course of action you have. That is of course if your patience holds out.
http://www.memtest.org/
There may be other third party ones, if you google them. This one you install on a CD or floppy, and if nothing else, it may elliminate the memory as the problem.
Reading your earlier posts, I take it you've binned IE8, with it being a strong suspect?
The fact that you've reinstalled should rule out Malware, but you could always make absolutely sure about that outside possibility by having a look over to our Spyware Hell section, and get some qualified advice.
http://forum.pirifor...showtopic=20120
A process of elimination is the only real course of action you have. That is of course if your patience holds out.
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#10 OFFLINE
Posted 08 April 2009 - 04:28 PM
but would spywear or a virus let my pc work all day and night but as soon as i dont do anything on it for 20 mins it will lock up
just mad
just mad
#11 OFFLINE
Posted 08 April 2009 - 04:50 PM
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#12 OFFLINE
Posted 08 April 2009 - 04:58 PM
thegfp, on Apr 8 2009, 03:03 AM, said:
just checked my pc again and i forgot that i use the onboard graphics card by NVIDIA and yet i still had my radeon 2400 pro card slotted in and ive not plugged anything into it so ive removed that and another card slotted in which was a 4x usb card
fingers crossed
fingers crossed
When you removed the Radeon 2400 card, did you uninstall the associated driver? Maybe there is a conflict with the Radeon and Nvidia drivers.
#13 OFFLINE
Posted 14 April 2009 - 12:30 AM
latest is
removed the drivers for the old graphics card and no difference
removed windows defender and no difference
found that the apple update was only partly installed as when i went to uninstall it it told me it was not correctly installed so repaired it then removed it
no difference
then
was was sitting there watching tv with the volume down and heard hard drives make there usuall noise and the curson went to its busy icon
then i watched it thinking this is weird as absolutly nothing is running
then i heard a click almost like when the computer is just accessing the floppy drive then i tried it and the pc had frozen
so i did the usuall restart and then timed it to see if it was a certain time before it did it again
15 mins after a hard reset it did it and froze up
restart and waitied and again 15 mins then it did it again then again after 15 mins the next time
so
i booted up and went into the bios and rememberd id changed my boot sequence to
sata
cd
floppy
also saw that my "sata operation mode" was non raid ? (no idea what that means)
so any more ideas
thanks for all your help so far
removed the drivers for the old graphics card and no difference
removed windows defender and no difference
found that the apple update was only partly installed as when i went to uninstall it it told me it was not correctly installed so repaired it then removed it
no difference
then
was was sitting there watching tv with the volume down and heard hard drives make there usuall noise and the curson went to its busy icon
then i watched it thinking this is weird as absolutly nothing is running
then i heard a click almost like when the computer is just accessing the floppy drive then i tried it and the pc had frozen
so i did the usuall restart and then timed it to see if it was a certain time before it did it again
15 mins after a hard reset it did it and froze up
restart and waitied and again 15 mins then it did it again then again after 15 mins the next time
so
i booted up and went into the bios and rememberd id changed my boot sequence to
sata
cd
floppy
also saw that my "sata operation mode" was non raid ? (no idea what that means)
so any more ideas
thanks for all your help so far
#14 OFFLINE
Posted 16 April 2009 - 01:45 AM
Possibly your BIOS battery?













