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#1 OFFLINE   Tom AZ

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 03:33 AM

Anyone have any experience with PC Tools ThreatFire?

Because it uses a behavior based detection system, can it be used concurrently with another AV program such as AntiVir (with active protection activated) without conflict?

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 04:04 AM

I'm trying it on the old PIII with AntiVir and it seems to work but there are reports that it causes hangups.
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 05:38 AM

It also doesn't even bother to uninstall if you attempt to uninstall it!
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 05:47 AM

View PostAndavari, on Dec 29 2008, 05:38 AM, said:

It also doesn't even bother to uninstall if you attempt to uninstall it!
Please explain further!!

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 05:52 AM

View PostTom AZ, on Dec 28 2008, 11:47 PM, said:

Please explain further!!
1. You uninstall it.
2. You look into where it was installed and nothing was removed.

I've tried it twice before and both times it just didn't last long on my system as both times it causes issues. Frankly I don't think ThreatFire is needed at all on a system with either Avast or Antivir installed when coupled with something like SUPERAntiSpyware.
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 05:59 AM

View PostAndavari, on Dec 29 2008, 05:52 AM, said:

1. You uninstall it.
2. You look into where it was installed and nothing was removed.

I've tried it twice before and both times it just didn't last long on my system as both times it causes issues. Frankly I don't think ThreatFire is needed at all on a system with either Avast or Antivir installed when coupled with something like SUPERAntiSpyware.
So, how did you end up uninstalling it?

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 04:27 PM

View PostTom AZ, on Dec 28 2008, 11:59 PM, said:

So, how did you end up uninstalling it?
1. I used Total Uninstall since I tracked the installation.
2. Used my ERUNT backup.
3. It was properly gone off my system.
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Posted 30 December 2008 - 01:48 AM

Never had a problem uninstalling it. Current version (4.0.0.10) working faultlessly on my XP Home SP3, alongside Avast and PCTools firewall.
The earlier version had some compatibility issues, appears these have been resolved.
Although it can be set to be recognized by the Windows Security Centre as an AV, this can also be turned off, and it will not conflict with another AV. From the FAQ's (part quote)

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Since no single application is currently foolproof, a layered defense provides the most complete protection. ThreatFire is the perfect complement to your existing antivirus protection, and is fully compatible with your antivirus or other security programs.
As an additional layer, this one comprising a type of behaviour blocker, I find it useful. Or at least reassuring.
Would be nice if, when a threat is detected, there would be an option to merely block it, rather than delete or quarantine it. Because it sometimes detects legitimate processes as potentially malicious (and this is the way of behaviour blocker/HIPS-type software), it is wise to examine what is being reported rather than blindly deleting stuff.
Mind you, the same could be said of any security software.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 02:15 AM

View PostTarq57, on Dec 30 2008, 01:48 AM, said:

Never had a problem uninstalling it. Current version (4.0.0.10) working faultlessly on my XP Home SP3, alongside Avast and PCTools firewall.
How long have you been using it with this configuration?

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 02:28 AM

October 21 the new version of TF installed. Changed from Comodo Firewall to PCTools firewall about the same time, maybe a little later.