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Posted 06 December 2008 - 06:10 PM

OK, so, I :wub: Recuva. </moment to share that>

How come some files can be recovered, yet others cannot? For example, on my USB flash drive I deleted several images the same way I normally do: Shift + Delete and when using Recuva I get most of them images back but some are in red status/unrecoverable. Why is this? :unsure:

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Posted 07 December 2008 - 12:21 PM

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Assuming you mean that the files are actually unrecoverable, and not the Recuva just says that they are? And do you mean that the files are completely unrecoverable, or that most of the pic is recovered and a section is just fuzz?

I dunno. But I guess it's either that some parameter in the directory is altered so that the full or correct extents of the file can't be recovered, or that part of the data on the disk is altered when it's deleted (by writing a free space marker or something) so that the data can't be read properly, or that some field that Recuva is attempting to interpret returns the wrong info. Or that some temporary file is written or allocated on top of the data, but perhaps that is unlikely on a flash drive. Or that some file management software is automatically tweaking the data on the drive when files are deleted. I've run out of guesses now.

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Posted 07 December 2008 - 02:42 PM

View PostAugeas, on Dec 7 2008, 12:21 PM, said:

Assuming you mean that the files are actually unrecoverable, and not the Recuva just says that they are?
Recuva just marks the files as red and as far as I know that means unrecoverable/not worth trying. :P

View PostAugeas, on Dec 7 2008, 12:21 PM, said:

And do you mean that the files are completely unrecoverable, or that most of the pic is recovered and a section is just fuzz?
I never tried recovering the file so I don't know the answer to that. :unsure:

View PostAugeas, on Dec 7 2008, 12:21 PM, said:

I dunno. But I guess it's either that some parameter in the directory is altered so that the full or correct extents of the file can't be recovered, or that part of the data on the disk is altered when it's deleted (by writing a free space marker or something) so that the data can't be read properly, or that some field that Recuva is attempting to interpret returns the wrong info. Or that some temporary file is written or allocated on top of the data, but perhaps that is unlikely on a flash drive. Or that some file management software is automatically tweaking the data on the drive when files are deleted. I've run out of guesses now.
:lol: OK, thanks for answering at least--appreciate it. ;)
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 06:21 PM

Try recovering a 'red' file - sometimes Recuva is not too accurate in its state of the file readings.

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Posted 07 December 2008 - 06:39 PM

View PostYorkshireman, on Dec 6 2008, 01:10 PM, said:

OK, so, I :wub: Recuva. </moment to share that>
If such a question, similar question, has been answered before please point me to it.
Don't forget to read all the Important Topics at the top of the Recuva Discussion forum like this one.
http://forum.pirifor...showtopic=14299
Good luck, :) davey

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 07:05 PM

View Postdavey, on Dec 7 2008, 06:39 PM, said:

Don't forget to read all the Important Topics at the top of the Recuva Discussion forum like this one.
http://forum.pirifor...showtopic=14299
Good luck, :) davey
:lol: Thanks. Are you like the bibliography for Piriform forums? :P
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Posted 09 December 2008 - 10:00 AM

View PostYorkshire man, on Dec 8 2008, 02:05 PM, said:

:lol: Thanks. Are you like the bibliography for Piriform forums? :P
Sometimes the data is available but not easily found.
Many members,yours truly included, forget about those Important Topics at the top of each forum.
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I check back in and re-read every now and then for a refresher. One sentence can provide the solution to many problems or avoidance of many problems. The authors sometimes update them and the update can be missed by many members.
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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:53 PM

View PostYorkshireman, on Dec 6 2008, 06:10 PM, said:

For example, on my USB flash drive I deleted several images the same way I normally do: Shift + Delete

No point on a flash drive or floppy disk because it doesn't goto the Recycle bin. ;)
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Posted 09 December 2008 - 01:54 PM

I wondered when someone would spot that!

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 06:18 PM

View Postdavey, on Dec 9 2008, 10:00 AM, said:

Sometimes the data is available but not easily found.
Many members,yours truly included, forget about those Important Topics at the top of each forum.
New members never realize that very important information is available there.
I check back in and re-read every now and then for a refresher. One sentence can provide the solution to many problems or avoidance of many problems. The authors sometimes update them and the update can be missed by many members.
Yes !!! Sometimes I even re-read the forum rules.
I have some interesting soup cans if you are interested.
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Keithuk, it's force of habit at this point.
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