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#1 OFFLINE   CeeCee

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 10:04 AM

How many of you know, that Avast! will run Anti-rootkit scan on Windows startup by default? LOG file is placed in C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\log. If you want, here's the way to disable rootkit scan on Windows startup: http://support.avast.com/index.php?_m=know...ratingconfirm=1

Another thing you might not know, is that some Avast! LOG files are locked and can't be deleted (not even by using Unlocker program). This is because of the self-defence mode. You have to temporarely disable it to delete LOG files. You can disable it by going avast! Program settings -> Troubleshooting.

Of course, some of you already know these things, but some might not.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 10:23 AM

View PostCeeCee, on Aug 28 2008, 06:04 AM, said:

How many of you know, that Avast! will run Anti-rootkit scan on Windows startup by default? LOG file is placed in C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\log. If you want, here's the way to disable rootkit scan on Windows startup: http://support.avast.com/index.php?_m=know...ratingconfirm=1

Another thing you might not know, is that some Avast! LOG files are locked and can't be deleted (not even by using Unlocker program). This is because of the self-defence mode. You have to temporarely disable it to delete LOG files. You can disable it by going avast! Program settings -> Troubleshooting.

Of course, some of you already know these things, but some might not.
I noticed that option about the RootKit scan in Troubleshooting. If it is doing the scan in the Free version then the scan is very quick as my start-up times have not increased that I am aware of.
Yes, it is comforting to see those files even after a CCleaning.
Thanks for the information. It is comforting to know that even Unlocker can't touch those files.
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Posted 28 August 2008 - 10:51 AM

View Postdavey, on Aug 28 2008, 10:23 AM, said:

If it is doing the scan in the Free version then the scan is very quick as my start-up times have not increased that I am aware of.
I didn't notice any difference. I just noticed this thing from the log file. I have disabled this startup scan for now. Might enable it again later though.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 01:10 PM

View PostCeeCee, on Aug 28 2008, 04:04 AM, said:

Another thing you might not know, is that some Avast! LOG files are locked and can't be deleted (not even by using Unlocker program). This is because of the self-defence mode. You have to temporarely disable it to delete LOG files. You can disable it by going avast! Program settings -> Troubleshooting.
I didn't know about the rootkit scanning on startup, which I think is a very good ideal.

I did however know about the self protection it has as no cleaning tool can touch it. When I last used Avast and was going to update the CCleaner winapp2.ini cleaning routine for it then just left well enough alone because I didn't think it would be a very good ideal to recommend people disabling the protection just to clean a few measly logs that aren't hurting anything.
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Posted 28 August 2008 - 02:22 PM

Um this is what a help file is for. The root kit scan on start up is clearly pointed out in the help file. I knew about it 1 hour after I installed Avast. Never stops amazing me the people that will use a program for years and not know many of it's functions because they didn't bother to read a help file. Since Avast has such a disgusting GUI you really need to read the help file to learn all the features. It's definitely not an intuitive GUI like Avira AntiVir is.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 02:31 PM

View PostAnthony A, on Aug 28 2008, 02:22 PM, said:

because they didn't bother to read a help file.
My "bad habit" is that i rarely read help files. But i usually go through the program settings and learn that way.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 02:32 PM

View PostCeeCee, on Aug 28 2008, 10:31 AM, said:

My "bad habit" is that i rarely read help files. But i usually go through the program settings and learn that way.

No offense but you obviously didn't learn in this case. It's clearly pointed out to.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 02:38 PM

View PostAnthony A, on Aug 28 2008, 02:32 PM, said:

No offense but you obviously didn't learn in this case. It's clearly pointed out to.

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True. Strangely i somehow missed it. Btw, i can't see the picture, but i think what you mean.

Edit: i had to enable referrer to see it.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 02:49 PM

New info about this rootkit boot scan. This is a response to me on Avast! forum:

It isn't run at boot, but 8 minutes after boot to enable any boot activity to complete, allowing a comparison to be made against what is actually running and what is reported as running.

If you found the C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\log\aswAr.log you will also have found that the scan takes seconds, my last one took 3 seconds (start time at top and finished time at the bottom of the report).


Well, i think i enable it after all...

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 01:09 AM

Is this the "Test Memory During Application Startup" thingy?

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 09:55 AM

View PostCorona, on Aug 29 2008, 01:09 AM, said:

Is this the "Test Memory During Application Startup" thingy?
No.

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 10:55 AM

View PostCeeCee, on Aug 28 2008, 06:04 AM, said:

Of course, some of you already know these things, but some might not.
CeeCee, I am glad that you started this topic.
(removed by davey).
:) davey

P.S. Oops!!! Sorry Hazel,topic related but wrong forum.

Edited by davey, 30 August 2008 - 04:29 AM.


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 11:23 AM

Davey what on earth has UPHClean to do with this Avast topic?
CCLEANER, RECUVA, DEFRAGGLER AND SPECCY DOCUMENTATION CAN BE FOUND HERE

http://www.piriform.com/docs

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 11:35 AM

View PostCeeCee, on Aug 28 2008, 02:49 PM, said:

New info about this rootkit boot scan. This is a response to me on Avast! forum:

It isn't run at boot, but 8 minutes after boot to enable any boot activity to complete, allowing a comparison to be made against what is actually running and what is reported as running.

If you found the C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\log\aswAr.log you will also have found that the scan takes seconds, my last one took 3 seconds (start time at top and finished time at the bottom of the report).


Well, i think i enable it after all...

This is the best bit of info in this already pretty good thread. Nice one CeeCee.

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 12:36 PM

View PostDennisD, on Aug 29 2008, 11:35 AM, said:

This is the best bit of info in this already pretty good thread. Nice one CeeCee.
Thanks. Just checked from the log and my last scan took 7 seconds. So it's basicly nothing. Better keep it enabled.

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 02:45 PM

View PostCeeCee, on Aug 28 2008, 08:38 AM, said:

but i think what you mean.
I can see it, and I also think what he means too. :lol:
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