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#1 OFFLINE   Eli

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 08:47 AM

Hi
System restore disk space at C(win.operating sys,docs,programs)-9600MB (12%)
System restore disk space at D -8714MB (12%)
It appears to me an awful lot of disk space.(Please see my sys.details below)
Is it recommended to adjust sys.restore to a lower disk space?, if yes ,please specify.
Other than gaining some disk space , is there any additional benefit from diminishing sys.restore? :blink:

Thanking you in advance
EP
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Posted 02 June 2008 - 09:46 AM

View PostEli, on Jun 2 2008, 04:47 AM, said:

Hi
System restore disk space at C(win.operating sys,docs,programs)-9600MB (12%)
System restore disk space at D -8714MB (12%)
It appears to me an awful lot of disk space.(Please see my sys.details below)
Is it recommended to adjust sys.restore to a lower disk space?, if yes ,please specify.
Other than gaining some disk space , is there any additional benefit from diminishing sys.restore? :blink:

Thanking you in advance
EP
Howdy Eli,
It just depends how far back you want to go with System Restore.
I wasn't sure if you get space allocated for it on another Hard Drive or is that a partition.
You are ahead of me there if it's either one.
I have approx. 60 Restore Points going back to May 01,2008 taking approx 2.26 GB.
Your mileage may vary.
I have 5% of my 80 GB HD allocated. That's 3.7 GB.
Looks like I can cut it back some more from the original 12%.
Your Restore Points may be a lot larger than mine.
How the allocation affects other things I don't know.
I do know that Windows Disk Defragmenter ignores defraging those files.Some other defraggers do not.
18 GB of Restore points goes back how far?

You see what I am getting at?
Good luck,
:) davey

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 10:01 AM

I would not advise people to turn off system restore unless they had other means of recovering their data.

However some people may suggest that you turn off system restore on drives other than the one you have windows installed on.

Instructions are here

http://bertk.mvps.or...ivedisable.html

If you decide to adjust the slider of your drive with windows on, be aware that this can result in the oldest restore points being deleted as the space is reduced.

http://bertk.mvps.or.../diskspace.html
CCLEANER, RECUVA, DEFRAGGLER AND SPECCY DOCUMENTATION CAN BE FOUND HERE

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 10:52 AM

View Postdavey, on Jun 2 2008, 09:46 AM, said:

Howdy Eli,
It just depends how far back you want to go with System Restore.
I wasn't sure if you get space allocated for it on another Hard Drive or is that a partition.
You are ahead of me there if it's either one.
I have approx. 60 Restore Points going back to May 01,2008 taking approx 2.26 GB.
Your mileage may vary.
I have 5% of my 80 GB HD allocated. That's 3.7 GB.
Looks like I can cut it back some more from the original 12%.
Your Restore Points may be a lot larger than mine.
How the allocation affects other things I don't know.
I do know that Windows Disk Defragmenter ignores defraging those files.Some other defraggers do not.
18 GB of Restore points goes back how far?

You see what I am getting at?
Good luck,
:) davey
Hi Davey
It`s 9600MB+8714MB=18314MB = 1.83 GB
I`m going back to February 18th, 29 backups.
Regards
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Posted 02 June 2008 - 11:09 AM

View PostEli, on Jun 2 2008, 06:52 AM, said:

Hi Davey
It`s 9600MB+8714MB=18314MB = 1.83 GB
I`m going back to February 18th, 29 backups.
Regards
Eli
You are off by only 1 decimal place.
No wonder you can go back so far.
You must not be rebooting very often.
Your average Restore Point must be pretty large.
I forgot about that website that Hazel suggested.It is the place to go for good System Restore info. XP or Vista.
P.S. Or maybe you only fire up you PC every couple of days. :D Nothing wrong with that either. :P
:) davey

Edited by davey, 02 June 2008 - 11:33 AM.


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Posted 02 June 2008 - 11:10 AM

View Posthazelnut, on Jun 2 2008, 10:01 AM, said:

I would not advise people to turn off system restore unless they had other means of recovering their data.

However some people may suggest that you turn off system restore on drives other than the one you have windows installed on.

Instructions are here

http://bertk.mvps.or...ivedisable.html

If you decide to adjust the slider of your drive with windows on, be aware that this can result in the oldest restore points being deleted as the space is reduced.

http://bertk.mvps.or.../diskspace.html
Hi Hazelnut
Thank you for the info ;)
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#7 OFFLINE   Eli

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 11:21 AM

Other than gaining some disk space , is there any additional benefit from diminishing sys.restore?

Regards
Eli
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Processor :AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual core 3800, 2009Mhz.
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Posted 02 June 2008 - 11:44 AM

View PostEli, on Jun 2 2008, 07:21 AM, said:

Other than gaining some disk space , is there any additional benefit from diminishing sys.restore?

Regards
Eli
Maybe when defragging or doing backups.
When I updated to SP3 I backed up everything including the Restore points.
Of course you could also end up with 29 copies of some malware in your System Restore points.
Oh yes, it will also increase some security scan times.
Well, always better too many than too few.You can never Restore what you don't have.
:) davey

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 03:11 PM

View PostEli, on Jun 2 2008, 05:52 AM, said:

Hi Davey
It`s 9 AM.
I`m going back to February 18th.
Regards
Eli


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Posted 02 June 2008 - 03:42 PM

If it's any help, I have system restore turned off for my partition. There's nothing "installed" there, so there's nothing I would want restoring.

Invariably Registry Mechanic picks up a lot of invalid "System Volume Information" entries all pertaining to stuff I've binned off the partition.

Just thought I'd throw that last sentence in for info. :)

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Posted 03 June 2008 - 06:52 PM

Thank you all for the info ;)
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Posted 04 June 2008 - 09:00 PM

View Posthazelnut, on Jun 2 2008, 10:01 AM, said:

I would not advise people to turn off system restore unless they had other means of recovering their data.

However some people may suggest that you turn off system restore on drives other than the one you have windows installed on.

Instructions are here

http://bertk.mvps.or...ivedisable.html

If you decide to adjust the slider of your drive with windows on, be aware that this can result in the oldest restore points being deleted as the space is reduced.

http://bertk.mvps.or.../diskspace.html

Hi Hazelnut
I have reduced the sys.restore from 1.8 GB to 900mb ,rebooted and still have the same 29 restore points... Do you have any idea what is going on?
Thanks .Eli
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Posted 05 June 2008 - 06:01 AM

It will mean that your machine still has space for restore points left even after reducing the amount of space available for them.

Only when the space gets full does it start deleting them.
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Posted 05 June 2008 - 06:14 AM

View Posthazelnut, on Jun 5 2008, 06:01 AM, said:

It will mean that your machine still has space for restore points left even after reducing the amount of space available for them.

Only when the space gets full does it start deleting them.
Thanks Hazelnut. ;)
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Posted 05 June 2008 - 08:57 AM

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Remove Restore Points
To remove all restore points except the most recent restore point, follow these steps:
1. Click Start, and then click My Computer.
2. Right-click the disk in which you want to free up space, and then click Properties.
3. Click the General tab, and then click Disk Cleanup.
4. Click the More Options tab, and then under System Restore, click Clean up.
5. Click Yes to remove all but the most recent restore point.
6. Click OK, click Yes to proceed with this action, and then click OK.
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Posted 05 June 2008 - 09:53 AM

View PostHumpty, on Jun 5 2008, 08:57 AM, said:

Thank you Humpty.
Eli ;)

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 10:05 AM

View PostEli, on Jun 5 2008, 05:53 AM, said:

Thank you Humpty.
Eli ;)

It is usually good to run the Windows defrag after cleaning out the old restore points.
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