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[tommyk]

I am having major problems with OE and IE. I cannot access OE the normal way. Have to go through Dial Up Network or my shortcut key to my server, even that does not work sometimes. My system locks up, shuts down, does not shut down, programs not responding, shuts down incorrectly, etc.

I ran all my anti-spyware (Spryware Blaster, Spyware Dr., Ad Aware SE) and anti virus (AVAST)with no detections. I ran Trojan Hunter with no Trojans. I then ran A-Squared which showed no malware, but numerous trojans, worms, macros (false positives?) Something does not jive here.

I cannot download windows updates which has two critical OE downloads. It freezes when I click install.

I'm running Windows 98 and use Kerio as a Firewall.

What's up?

[Tarun]

Please see this post.

[Eldmannen]

Outlook and Outlook Express is well-known for bad security. Executing scripts, bad handling of MIME resulting in buffer overflows, etc.

If you care about your security you should use Mozilla Firefox and Mozilla Thunderbird.

http://www.mozilla.o...oducts/firefox/
http://www.mozilla.o...ts/thunderbird/

[Tarun]

Eldmannen, on Jun 14 2005, 07:01 PM, said:

Outlook and Outlook Express is well-known for bad security. Executing scripts, bad handling of MIME resulting in buffer overflows, etc.

If you care about your security you should use Mozilla Firefox and Mozilla Thunderbird.

http://www.mozilla.o...oducts/firefox/
http://www.mozilla.o...ts/thunderbird/

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Eldmannen,
Either try to help the user solve their problem AND offer alternatives, or please do not post at all.

[Capman]

Eldmannen's sig is just as irritating as he is, he reminds me of some of my first posts in this forum, I soon learned though, if I think I can help I will try, if I dont I keep quiet.

Let this be a lesson to all!

[rridgely]

I think this guy is having other problems as well. Go to this website and follow all of the directions download all of the programs you dont have except the microsoft antispyware beta since your on win 98. Once youve done everything post a hijack this log.

http://lunarsoft.opt...aintenance.html

[DjLizard]

I skimmed this thread and saw stuff about shutting down, locking up, etc... maybe try memtest?

Use this utility to make a bootable floppy. Boot it. Don't stop it [by hitting esc] until Pass is '1' (it takes a half hour or so). See www.memtest.org for details.

[Eldmannen]

Hello Taron, how are you doing?

I informed him that the software he was using is well-known to being vulnerable and he should consider alternatives. And having major problems like in his case is pretty difficult to assist with, and it dont surprise me he run into those conflicts running that kind of software. Now even if it was possible to solve the problem, he would most likely end up with same or similiar problems again. In this case alternatives is the best solution.

[DjLizard]

HIS NAME IS TARUN

ARGH!@#$*(!@#*(%

In the tech industry, you give the customer what they ask for, and you fix what is wrong, you don't replace it. When you replace things that aren't broke, you look shady as hell. It also makes you look like you don't know what you're doing. Most of these problems people are having have quite common, or simple to repair, especially to me, since I deal with the most common issues on a daily basis where I work.

Knowing that these two components (IE/OE) are embedded into the operating system and not fixing them gives you more problems than you would have ever encountered, despite their flawed and insecure natures. I used to use IE and OE all the time, for years and years, and I never had a single problem. Most of the issues come from third party products, or the end user. That pretty much covers 80% of the problems. 20% of the problems are inherent to the products, but they usually get fixed and end up on Windows Update.
Either contribute to the support and repair of these products, or stay out of it.

By the way, what operating system are YOU using, anyway? If it's not GNU/Linux, I'm going to flame you for the rest of your life.

[Andavari]

DjLizard, on Jun 14 2005, 06:35 PM, said:

I skimmed this thread and saw stuff about shutting down, locking up, etc... maybe try memtest?

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I think that should be a standard recommendation after someone has went the typical software route and scanned for malware, ran ScanDisk/ChkDsk, ran System File Checker (Win9x). Far too often many system problems are related to bad memory, or some other failing hardware.

[Cursedbythegods]

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Lawl, I thought i sent message guess not >.< (I just woke up is my excuse )

[rridgely]

Cursedbythegods, on Jun 15 2005, 12:23 PM, said:

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Lawl, I thought i sent message guess not >.< (I just woke up is my excuse )

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Cursedbythegods your sig says that no one responds to your topics. Well I looked up all your topics and their were only 2! If you want a response you have to start more topics so that we can give you one.

[tommyk]

TO all who tried to help . . .thanks

I finally gave up and took my computer to a repair shop. They said my Windows Registry was corrupt and fixed it. They re-loaded Windows 98, put in a new modern, and upgraded more memory.

Things seem to be working now.

[TwistedMetal]

To prevent this from happening find a program that backs up your registry. Shouldn't be hard to find one.

[DjLizard]

Yeah. There's one called scanreg.exe that exists on his hard drive already, and makes automatic backups daily (each time you successfully make it into Windows). It's as easy as SCANREG /RESTORE to get into the UI (while in DOS) to recover several system files (system.dat, user.dat, system.ini, and win.ini, and possibly a couple of others). Fixes the registry every time. You just keep going back in time until things work (if it IS indeed a registry problem). Some tech shops don't know the difference. I do though. I bet I could have fixed it without reinstalling Windows o:)