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#1 OFFLINE   Panarchy

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 05:29 AM

Hello!

I was looking at some other programs (CCleaner equivalents) none were quite as good as CCleaner, but there were some feature that the comptetitors have that CCleaner doesn't have.

1. SCHEDULER (I haven't really looked hard for this, but I would like to know if it is in CCleaner)

2. 20 PASS FILE DELETION! I was using some program (I could tell you the name, but I don't want to advertise) and it had an option to do a 20 pass file deletion. It had; 1 pass, 3 pass & 7 pass (which CCleaner already has) but it had one higher, 20 pass.

I am wondering if it would be possible for CCleaner (the developers) to add these things.

Thanks in advance,

Panarchy

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 07:20 AM

Hi,

We're planning to add a Gutmann 35 pass clean shortly. :)

MrG

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 07:24 AM

Use the Windows Scheduled tasks to make CCleaner run automatically. If you open CCleaner, and then click on Options, it tells you the command line parameter.

/AUTO - Runs the cleaner upon loading, and then closes the application.

You might find this page on my website useful:
http://www.robdickso...yware_scans.php

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 08:37 AM

 MrG, on Oct 6 2007, 05:20 PM, said:

Hi,

We're planning to add a Gutmann 35 pass clean shortly. :)

MrG

WOW! Holy #$%&!!!

That will be awesome!

Thanks!

(By the way, does this mean you don't want/need to add the 20 pass one?)

 Rob Dickson, on Oct 6 2007, 05:24 PM, said:

Use the Windows Scheduled tasks to make CCleaner run automatically. If you open CCleaner, and then click on Options, it tells you the command line parameter.

/AUTO - Runs the cleaner upon loading, and then closes the application.

You might find this page on my website useful:
http://www.robdickso...yware_scans.php

^Oh yeah! I forget how to use command line things though...

#5 OFFLINE   Rob Dickson

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 12:46 PM

The Windows Scheduled Tasks function takes you through step by step. Just edit the command that's run, and that's it.

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 01:52 AM

 MrG, on Oct 6 2007, 08:20 AM, said:

Hi,

We're planning to add a Gutmann 35 pass clean shortly. :)

MrG
Whoa, you threw that in from out of nowhere :blink: :D

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 04:19 AM

 MrG, on Oct 6 2007, 03:20 AM, said:

Hi,

We're planning to add a Gutmann 35 pass clean shortly. :)

MrG


Great news. Thanks :D
The SLIM version is always released a bit after any new version; when it is it will be HERE :-)

#8 OFFLINE   Panarchy

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 12:17 PM

How soon?

'Cause I am really looking forward to it!

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Posted 13 October 2007 - 10:06 AM

Gnutmann is the go

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 08:46 AM

:P

#11 OFFLINE   Panarchy

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 08:56 AM

When is this 35 pass file deletion going to be added?

I have some very important data that I need to delete, so I want it at least a 35 pass deletion.

Thanks in advance,

Panarchy

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 03:58 PM

 Panarchy, on Oct 23 2007, 09:56 AM, said:

When is this 35 pass file deletion going to be added?

I have some very important data that I need to delete, so I want it at least a 35 pass deletion.
If you need it that urgently just use Eraser. Besides unless CCleaners secure deletion is undergoing a rewrite along with the 35 pass deletion you will get a more secure deletion with Eraser anyway.

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 04:06 PM

35 passes???? Holy cow..that is ridiculous.... Secure deletion FTW!!!

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 04:39 PM

IMO, secure deleting temp files is a little bit over the top. Atleast with 20 or 35 passes... :huh:

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Posted 24 October 2007 - 01:33 AM

 JDPower, on Oct 24 2007, 01:58 AM, said:

If you need it that urgently just use Eraser. Besides unless CCleaners secure deletion is undergoing a rewrite along with the 35 pass deletion you will get a more secure deletion with Eraser anyway.


Why are you advertising a different product?

Why not try and improve this one, so it is as 'good' as the on you mentioned previously.

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Posted 24 October 2007 - 03:20 AM

 Panarchy, on Oct 24 2007, 02:33 AM, said:

Why are you advertising a different product?

Why not try and improve this one, so it is as 'good' as the on you mentioned previously.
I'm not advertising, I'm suggesting it as an alternative as CCleaner doesn't currently do what you want, whereas Eraser does :rolleyes:

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Posted 25 October 2007 - 12:16 AM

Is it not possible to just allow the user to input the number of passes they want? I'm afraid I don't know much about this coding to know if this is even possible.

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Posted 25 October 2007 - 03:28 PM

CC Staffers: There is not point having the Gutmann method, It's old and unessercery unless you have a disk with MFM/RLL encoding. Today's disks that use PRML/EPRML encoding only need a few random passes from a decent PRNG to get the job done. It would be a lot better to allow the user to specify the number of random passes he or she wanted. Today the Gutmann method is pointless and in my opinion it is only used as a sales pitch.

And while we are on the deletion subject, the option to wipe free space & slack space would be nice (along with the random renaming of wiped files like Sexy_Girlfriends_Mum.JPG turns to just OPTIRQ or TPYOGD.QTP)


:) :)

#19 OFFLINE   Panarchy

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Posted 26 October 2007 - 12:00 AM

^:lol: It's a pretty good sales pitch! But, what's the point? It's freeware!

 JDPower, on Oct 24 2007, 01:20 PM, said:

I'm not advertising, I'm suggesting it as an alternative as CCleaner doesn't currently do what you want, whereas Eraser does :rolleyes:


 Guest_Jim_*, on Oct 25 2007, 10:16 AM, said:

Is it not possible to just allow the user to input the number of passes they want? I'm afraid I don't know much about this coding to know if this is even possible.

That would be cool, but I am not sure that that would be possible

I still think that they should add the 35 pass file deletion, it would be good.

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Posted 26 October 2007 - 04:53 AM

 Panarchy, on Oct 26 2007, 01:00 AM, said:

^:lol: It's a pretty good sales pitch! But, what's the point? It's freeware
Exactly, so what's your point? :rolleyes: