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[Humpty]

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In a public mea culpa, Mozilla Corp.'s chief security officer acknowledged today that Firefox includes the same flaw that the company called a "critical vulnerability" in Internet Explorer during a two-week ruckus over responsibility for a Windows zero-day bug.

"Over the weekend, we learned about a new scenario that identifies ways that Firefox could also be used as the entry point," said Window Snyder of Mozilla. "While browsing with Firefox, a specially crafted URL could potentially be used to send bad data to another application.

"We thought this was just a problem with IE," Synder continued. "It turns out, it is a problem with Firefox as well."

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[TwistedMetal]

Well, we do live in a flawed world. You can only fix one flaw at a time. Would be nice to find every flaw at once, but that's not life now is it?

[rridgely]

Eh, no one ever thought firefox was security flaw free. Its just the flaws are usually different and less exploited.
I guess this could be reason enough for some to start using opera I guess but not to me.

[Andavari]

Don't forget there's also the browser freezing flaw, although I wouldn't necessarily call it a security exploit where a page can be scripted to cause just about any browser to freeze and become completely unresponsive for about five minutes. The newest release of Maxthon can prevent it, too bad Firefox is still susceptible to it.

[CeeCee]

Use Opera

The coolest, fastest, and most secure Web browser available.

[DennisD]

TwistedMetal, on Jul 25 2007, 02:50 AM, said:

Well, we do live in a flawed world. You can only fix one flaw at a time. Would be nice to find every flaw at once, but that's not life now is it?

I think that just about sums it up.

[AnGrA]

Okay i know that a lot of people have different opinions on which is more secure but im going to ask it anyway. Which is more secure Opera or Firefox?

[CeeCee]

AnGrA, on Jul 25 2007, 02:04 PM, said:

Which is more secure Opera or Firefox?

As far as i know: Opera.

http://www.opera.com...sktop/security/

[Andavari]

Completely turning off all scripting and cookies, and even IE would be safe, albeit there'd be little site functionality in doing that.

[Matt_]

I find it quite funny that people have started to find every slightest flaw of Firefox since it has gained a significant share of the browser market.

I love the rhetoric used in the article's title to make it seem Mozilla admitted Firefox was a flawed browser. Goebbels would be proud.

Opera is a nice browser, but her sister's hotter. Isn't bloated with features I could care less about , extensions give me a way to customize my browsing experience (and there is an almost incalculable number available), and it's open-source. Actually I could care less about the latter...

The memory footprint argument is always mentioned. Yet my Firefox at this very moment uses 180mb. But I live in the 21st century, I don't have 1GB of ram for nothing. It's still bloody fast, and I won't switch for a 2 milliseconds lesser loading time.

Secure ? It is most probable that if Opera had the same number of antagonistic fanboys it would be as flawed in the end.

[rridgely]

CeeCee, on Jul 25 2007, 06:58 AM, said:

Use Opera

The coolest, fastest, and most secure Web browser available.

Coolest- no sorry but just no... Firefox is so customizable and that deffinitely makes it the most .

Fastest- Not from what I've noticed. It has that super caching thing which makes sites load faster after you have been to them but just going site to site I dont really notice any difference. I used a test someone posted that timed page loads and firefox was winning on them all for me.

Most secure- Maybe. I dont think there are very many people trying to find its flaws right now. Opera's market share is the weakest out of all the major browsers(I believe apple was even saying safari is ahead of it..)

[rridgely]

Andavari, on Jul 25 2007, 03:44 AM, said:

Don't forget there's also the browser freezing flaw, although I wouldn't necessarily call it a security exploit where a page can be scripted to cause just about any browser to freeze and become completely unresponsive for about five minutes. The newest release of Maxthon can prevent it, too bad Firefox is still susceptible to it.

What is maxthon doing to stop it? I installed that browser yesterday and didnt notice anything special about anything.(except its horrible options menu.. who's bright idea was that? The old maxthon had a much better one.)

[CeeCee]

rridgely, on Jul 25 2007, 05:03 PM, said:

Opera's market share is the weakest out of all the major browsers...

It's just bad marketing/advertising. Opera has failed in those areas. Product itself is great.

[Anthony A]

CeeCee, on Jul 25 2007, 01:57 PM, said:

It's just bad marketing/advertising. Opera has failed in those areas. Product itself is great.

Opera wasn't free for the longest time. You had to pay or put up with adds. They would be much farther ahead in market share IMO if it wasn't for that.

I use Opera often and love it. Also love Firefox, Maxthon 1 and 2. I'm always amazed though at all the features Opera manages to pack into such a
small app.

[CeeCee]

Anthony A, on Jul 25 2007, 07:33 PM, said:

I use Opera often and love it.

Can't wait Opera 9.50 (codename Kestrel). http://my.opera.com/...strel-is-coming

[Andavari]

Matt_, on Jul 25 2007, 11:35 AM, said:

I find it quite funny that people have started to find every slightest flaw of Firefox since it has gained a significant share of the browser market.

The more people that use it on umpteen different system configurations the more flaws that can be found! It still doesn't have the luxury of being on every Windows system like IE though.

[Andavari]

rridgely, on Jul 25 2007, 12:08 PM, said:

What is maxthon doing to stop it? I installed that browser yesterday and didnt notice anything special about anything.

Well test your browsers here, and be prepared to CTRL+ALT+DEL and End Task any other browser other than Maxthon (albeit I've only tested this on Firefox):
http://forum.maxthon.../lockuptest.htm

[Humpty]

Andavari, on Jul 26 2007, 06:20 AM, said:

Well test your browsers here, and be prepared to CTRL+ALT+DEL and End Task any other browser other than Maxthon (albeit I've only tested this on Firefox):
http://forum.maxthon.../lockuptest.htm

FF doesn't freeze here.

Noscript

[Sockdown]

I'm using Opera now since the flaw news. Opera must have a flaw somewhere. Like the old saying: "Nothing is 100% secure.", but, just moving with the flow I guess. I still have Firefox. Waiting for the 2.0.0.6 update though. What about those other Browsers? Safari, K-Meleon, etc...? Is any of those any good?

[Humpty]

Sockdown, on Jul 26 2007, 11:35 AM, said:

I'm using Opera now since the flaw news. Opera must have a flaw somewhere. Like the old saying: "Nothing is 100% secure.", but, just moving with the flow I guess. I still have Firefox. Waiting for the 2.0.0.6 update though. What about those other Browsers? Safari, K-Meleon, etc...? Is any of those any good?

I think they are all quite good but it boils down to what suits the user.

Firefox with my addons and tab bar layout suits me fine.

I have tried a few others but they just don't seem to match FF, but as I said, I am probably so used to using FF that the others just sorta feel clumsy.