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[rridgely]

I just downloaded the new Windows Live Mail beta and I must say its pretty dang cool!
Here is a link:
http://get.live.com/...ildesktop_betas

Pluses so far:
-an attractive interface,
-it automatically configured itself for gmail(I just had to put in my email and password and it did the rest)
-can be used to check hotmail/windows live accounts
-Spell check

This client could give thunderbird a run for its money. If your using outlook express you should deffinitely upgrade.
This works on XP and Vista.

[Anthony A]

rridgely, on Jun 10 2007, 02:09 AM, said:

I just downloaded the new Windows Live Mail beta and I must say its pretty dang cool!

Pluses so far:
-it automatically configured itself for gmail(I just had to put in my email and password and it did the rest)

Thunderbird 2.0 does this as well. Set up two Gmail accounts in it in about 2min. Just enter email and password and TB did the rest..

[rridgely]

I've been using thunderbird 2 since it came out and each time I've installed it I've always had to enter in the server info.
Which isn't really a big deal to me but there are still folks out there that this confuses.

Anyway, if this program stays free its deffinitely worth using if you don't like TB.
And even if you do like it this program is still worth trying to see if you like it better.

[DennisD]

rridgely, on Jun 10 2007, 04:27 PM, said:

I've been using thunderbird 2 since it came out and each time I've installed it I've always had to enter in the server info.
Which isn't really a big deal to me but there are still folks out there that this confuses.

You're comments are right on the button.

I'm one of the folks out there, (I'm definitely out there ).

Even with a web tutorial sitting under my nose, I could not get Outlook Express to work and keep on working. After a very short time, I got sick of "can not find pop3 server", or something like that, and shifted to Yahoo.

Had a try with Thunderbird, same result. And I've tried Windows Live Mail.

Although I'm technically challenged, I'm not that stupid, but this type of email client (is that the right word?) works for a very short while, then the same message pops up again: "can not find pop3 server".

It's not worth the grief for me, when there are user friendly alternatives.

End of rant.

[rridgely]

What type of email did you use with this dennis?
I litterally just typed in my email and password and it did the rest for me.

If you have a hotmail/windows live email you can also use this client to check that which no other pop3 email program will be able to do unless you pay for the pro versions.

[Anthony A]

rridgely, on Jun 10 2007, 11:27 AM, said:

I've been using thunderbird 2 since it came out and each time I've installed it I've always had to enter in the server info.
Which isn't really a big deal to me but there are still folks out there that this confuses.

Are you talking about setting up TB 2 to access your Gmail account? I set two Gmail accounts up in TB 2 and no server info was necessary. Just your Gmail address and user name. I don't think it even asked for your pass word. TB 2 did the rest and the first time you send or receive an email with the Gmail account than you enter your pass word. I did have to enter server info for my e mail account with my ISP but that was easy.

From the Thunderbird home page

Easy Access to Popular Web Mail Services
Thunderbird 2 makes it even easier to integrate and use various Web mail accounts from one inbox. Gmail and .Mac users can access their accounts in Thunderbird by simply providing their user names and passwords.

[1984]

so which client is the easiest to configure and allows access to multiple gmail and hotmail and yahoo accounts? and can i access my isp account as well? also with a router and static ip, is there a different way to configure?

[rridgely]

Well I don't know what I missed in the set up process but I still had to enter pop.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com and then go into settings and check off ssl for both incoming and outcoming mail. Its not a big deal for me but some people just cant figure it out. I just installed TB2 on my desktop that didn't have it to try and I still had to do it.

[rridgely]

1984, on Jun 10 2007, 01:02 PM, said:

so which client is the easiest to configure and allows access to multiple gmail and hotmail and yahoo accounts? and can i access my isp account as well? also with a router and static ip, is there a different way to configure?

Well your not going to be able to access yahoo accounts unless you paid for the pro version.
The only client that I know of that will allow you to use hotmail like this is windows live mail. Any thing should be able to use your isp and gmail accounts)(thunderbird, opera mail, eudora, whatever)

I haven't tried setting up windows live mail to check my comcast email yet.(I don't use it at all.)
But I'll check to see if it auto configures everything.

[1984]

i downloaded this thing, and it wont set up on my computer. just keeps telling me it wont set up and nothing was changed on my computer and to try again later. hmmmm

[rridgely]

1984, on Jun 10 2007, 01:08 PM, said:

i downloaded this thing, and it wont set up on my computer. just keeps telling me it wont set up and nothing was changed on my computer and to try again later. hmmmm

I don't know.. I installed it on 2 of my computers(laptop and desktop) and it worked fine both times.
Do you have all of the updates and everything? Also is it not working on vista or xp?

[1984]

its not working on xp. and i had firewall and anti virus turned off. not sure of the problem, nothing else running. no big deal though. this kind of thing seems to always happen to me. lol

[rridgely]

I don't know then.
Try again later.

Maybe try a reboot then try.

[daggerXtreme]

rridgely, on Jun 10 2007, 10:05 AM, said:

Well your not going to be able to access yahoo accounts unless you paid for the pro version.
The only client that I know of that will allow you to use hotmail like this is windows live mail. Any thing should be able to use your isp and gmail accounts)(thunderbird, opera mail, eudora, whatever)

I haven't tried setting up windows live mail to check my comcast email yet.(I don't use it at all.)
But I'll check to see if it auto configures everything.

To be able to access smtp and pop from a free hotmail account, you need to have a pro account. Does this windows live mail beta allow you with pop and smtp? The last time I used it, it didn't allow smtp for a hotmail account.

[rridgely]

Yes you can use the free hotmail accounts.
I just created a new hotmail account(since the one I had expired because I hadn't used it in years). It loads up right in the program just like my gmail account.

[daggerXtreme]

rridgely, on Jun 10 2007, 11:01 AM, said:

Yes you can use the free hotmail accounts.
I just created a new hotmail account(since the one I had expired because I hadn't used it in years). It loads up right in the program just like my gmail account.

sweet too bad I use outlook, but I guess I could have two email clients open. Also, does it support the microsoft office livce, the thing where you choose your own domain thing?

[rridgely]

I don't know because I don't use that.
You could try it though.(it probably does though since its basically a hotmail account right?)

[DennisD]

rridgely, on Jun 10 2007, 05:22 PM, said:

What type of email did you use with this dennis?
I litterally just typed in my email and password and it did the rest for me.

If you have a hotmail/windows live email you can also use this client to check that which no other pop3 email program will be able to do unless you pay for the pro versions.

These guys are a pretty accurate description of how much I know about what you're talking about.

I'm a good speller, can read joined up writing, can even tell you how to tune a guitar using half a dozen different harmonics, but pop3 servers ? email clients?

It's undoubtedly so obvious to some of you guys, that if I wasn't a lay back sort of chap I'd be embarrassed.

All I know is that I have not a clue about the difference between something like Outlook Express, and the easy ones to set up like yahoo or hotmail.

Oh yes, my mistake, it wasn't Thunderbird I tried, it was Gmail.

I've signed up, but I can't work the ******* thing to work. So if you can explain to me in the most non technical way possible, the difference between say yahoo and Gmail, then you will have my undying admiration.

As long as you don't tell anybody about this.

[rridgely]

Don't worry this stuff confused the hell out of me too when I first started doing it.(At one time I literally spent hours trying to figure out how to use outlook express.)

Basically all pop3 does is allow you to download your email to a program like thunderbird or outlook express.
Yahoo doesn't allow pop access on their free accounts and neither does hotmail unless your using this new MS email program.

Gmail however does allow pop access to their email.
If you were going to use Thunderbird to check your gmail account you would need to know the pop(incoming) server and the smtp server(outgoing).
Which is:

pop.gmail.com
smtp.gmail.com

Then you would need to go into your account settings and enable ssl for both incoming and outgoing(so that it will prompt your for your password).

Windows Live Mail will do all of this for you where you will only have to enter in your email and password.
Someone said thunderbird 2 would too but I haven't seen it do it. I've always had to do it manually.

[DennisD]

rridgely, on Jun 10 2007, 09:41 PM, said:

Then you would need to go into your account settings and enable ssl for both incoming and outgoing(so that it will prompt your for your password).

Windows Live Mail will do all of this for you where you will only have to enter in your email and password.
Someone said thunderbird 2 would too but I haven't seen it do it. I've always had to do it manually.

The ssl thing is helpful, as I couldn't understand why I could open Outlook Express without needing the password I thought I had already set up.

I know you're a busy lad, but if you bear with me here, enlightenment is slowly creeping into my befuddled mind.

Is free Hotmail or free Yahoo actually the same type of programme as Outlook or Gmail, but with the restriction of not being able to access any other email accounts, and is this pop3 thingamajig, which you usually have to set up, the bit that enables Gmail or Outlook or Thunderbird to do that?

Is that the fundamental difference?