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[Humpty]

Some may be interested in the offer below.Registration was sent no probs.
Ticked Sypware Doctor as I think I used it a fair while ago.

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[Sputnik]

Thanks Humpty

I'm using the free Registry Mechanic offered sometime ago at downloadjunkie.co.uk, so ...

[DennisD]

Nice one Humpty, I've got Registry Mechanic.

Downloading now.

[Andavari]

Got it! I'll try it out a little later on.

[JDPower]

Thanks Humpty

[DennisD]

Well, it goes without saying that I'm no expert in these things, but I've been running with Cyberhawk all afternoon, and it doesn't seem to be conflicting with Avast Antivirus or anything else for that matter.

And it registered OK.

Has two processes running at approx 4mb and 3.5mb, with no noticeable difference in speed.

All good so far.....Just been stopped in mid sentence by this:



It's certainly doing it's job as that's a first.

I assume that's what browsers do when you're typing?

I repeat, all good so far.

[Andavari]

DennisD, on Jun 6 2007, 01:02 PM, said:

I repeat, all good so far.

Same here, and we're even using the same antivirus. If it weren't for the systray icon of Cyberhawk I wouldn't even know it's running. Also it's Rootkit scanner is very fast, even when doing the "full scan."

[Andavari]

DennisD, on Jun 6 2007, 01:02 PM, said:

All good so far.....Just been stopped in mid sentence by this:

I wonder if it's some Firefox extension you have installed. Some have descriptions that claim they "phone home" or something along those lines.

[DennisD]

Andavari, on Jun 6 2007, 08:25 PM, said:

I wonder if it's some Firefox extension you have installed. Some have descriptions that claim they "phone home" or something along those lines.

I've no idea, but I've just noticed the "threat control protection log" says the threat was triggered by Firefox.exe.

It didn't trigger when I booted Firefox, only when I began typing a post on here, and although I didn't check the "remember this answer" box, it hasn't reappeared.

Probably just flexing its muscles.

[JDPower]

DennisD, on Jun 6 2007, 10:34 PM, said:

I've no idea, but I've just noticed the "threat control protection log" says the threat was triggered by Firefox.exe.

It didn't trigger when I booted Firefox, only when I began typing a post on here, and although I didn't check the "remember this answer" box, it hasn't reappeared.

Maybe a session manager thing. I know the session manager extension I use (don't know about FF2's own session restore) can restore tabs including typed info in forms, I would assume it would have to log that typing in some way to do that.

Just a thought

[Andavari]

I thought all was going well with it until I went to create a 7-Zip 7z archive and 7-Zip kept erroring out and only creating a .tmp file. Removing Cyberhawk Pro allowed 7-Zip to function correctly. Oh well.

[DennisD]

Andavari, on Jun 7 2007, 08:17 PM, said:

I thought all was going well with it until I went to create a 7-Zip 7z archive and 7-Zip kept erroring out and only creating a .tmp file. Removing Cyberhawk Pro allowed 7-Zip to function correctly. Oh well.

I think we're batting on the same team here.

Can't put my finger on it exactly, but things don't seem as smooth as they were before, and to be truthful, I was fine security wise before I installed it, free or not.

Anyway, it was an interesting exercise, although I hope it's working fine for those who keep it.

[slowday444]

It froze my PC this morning before work. Everything was normal for about one hour then it froze. The only thing new I was running. I uninstalled it!

[JDPower]

And there was me thinking I really must get round to finally installing this, don't think I'll bother now

[rridgely]

I didn't even bother. I had used this program a long time ago and it gave me all kinds of grief.
I generally hate these types of programs anyway.

[Andavari]

rridgely, on Jun 7 2007, 06:30 PM, said:

I didn't even bother. I had used this program a long time ago and it gave me all kinds of grief.
I generally hate these types of programs anyway.

You should have warned us with something like: "this program is gonna suck"

[rridgely]

Well I used the free one so I wasn't sure if the pro was as bad.. plus I wanted to see what you all thought. (to save me the download. )

[lotse]

Installed, ran scan, came back here, read the replies and uninstalled

I found nothing wrong, except cyberhawk was continually trying to call home after I blocked internet access.

Doesn't it strike you as strange when we seem to be continually questioning the companies we used to trust in the security business...

Are we just too paranoid, or maybe just ignorant? Prehaps the software companies should explain their products in a bit more detail.

[Humpty]

Have installed it in a vm and seems ok ATM.Use Winrar here and I haven't really thrown any tests at it except for scoundrel simulator which it blocked all five attempted changes
Scoundrel Simulator

Also trying out Dynamic Security Agent in another vm, which is a free anti executable.Quite a bit noisier that Cyberhawk but seems snappier in blocking Scoundrel Simulator.

At this point I would say Dynamic Security Agent is prefered over Cyberhawk.I don't really need any of these type of apps and am just trying them out in virtual machines as testings and learning experience.

Now if you really want to test your defences try the ones below.Mainly for a firewall but a HIPS/Anti-executible should be pick up a few as well.
Firewall leaktests
Using a VM or Powershadow these tests are discarded at reboot.

[rridgely]

Those leaktests are one of the biggest scams I've ever seen. Yeah I know its important for a firewall to not allow things out that shouldn't but I think its way more important for it not to let in things that shouldn't be. There are firewalls out there (comodo for example) that claim to be the best because they stop the most leak tests but in reality the program is so buggy and finicky that its worse then any virus that your going to get in terms of annoyance level. Yet people spout how its the best because of all the leaktests it passes.
(Almost all the major software firewalls suck now. Its not just comodo that blows)

I'm completely over the idea of software firewalls. They are all more trouble then they are worth.
Just turn on the windows one or even better go buy a cheapo $20 router.

The whole "HIPS" thing is a croc too. Yeah I know "detection based prevention is flawed and blah blah blah" but if you leave your protection down to the user then thats deffinitely less secure in most cases. Plus the software is really annoying, buggy in most casses, and confusing.

I think there are so many of these buzz words going around that most people don't know what to do.
It kills me there are people out there that spend more time "securing" their computer then actually using it. They spend more time creating "virtualizations" and "image back ups that can never fail" then actually surfing the web. Of couse you aren't going to get viruses because you aren't actually using your computer for what it was intended! If windows actually required you do all of this crap just to stay virus free then I would jump in with the linux freaks because then I would actually save time/annoyance. In all truth the whole computer security market is turning into a big scam. Keep people scared and confused and they will keep throwing out the bucks.

Update Windows
Secure IE or use another browser
Install an antivirus and some spyware detection program
Quit doing stupid crap

Thats it!
And I didn't intend to turn this into the biggest rant ever. The words just poured from my finger tips.