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#1 OFFLINE   hazelnut

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 05:58 PM

For the people who use firefox (I'm an opera user myself :) ) here are some screenshots and info of work going on with firefox 3.

http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/01...fox-3-features/
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Posted 03 June 2007 - 06:05 PM

Currently using Opera

I just hope this goals would be really achieved
Improve Performance
Startup Time
Page Render Time
Tab Switching time
and this
Improved Memory Footprint (This one is a widely known prob of FF, considering it munches up to 100mb+ of memory)

Those cons are known for FF. I really want to see the improvement (and the memory consumption too!)

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 06:36 PM

Some interesting stuff there, can't say I'm particularly keen on any of it (seem to be heading towards the bloated end of the spectrum if that blog's anything to go by) but interesting nonetheless. They seem to be 'taking inspiration' from existing extensions in several places but I doubt half of that will even make it into the final version.

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 07:15 PM

View PostTunerz, on Jun 3 2007, 02:05 PM, said:

Currently using Opera

I just hope this goals would be really achieved
Improve Performance
Startup Time
Page Render Time
Tab Switching time
and this
Improved Memory Footprint (This one is a widely known prob of FF, considering it munches up to 100mb+ of memory)

Those cons are known for FF. I really want to see the improvement (and the memory consumption too!)
That is just stupid! I have seven extension enabled and five sites open and look at my memory usage at bottom of Task Manager!
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Posted 03 June 2007 - 07:33 PM

Use it for a long time and go to websites that are "memory hungry" errrr... or is it CPU hungry? I have seen it go up to 124mb of memory (memory leak perhaps), although I'm too lazy to create screenshots of every detail I make in my computer.

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Opera memory consumption fresh start (don't mind the name, my flimsy friend played with the configuration and says Opera is an ugly name >.< oh well)
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Posted 03 June 2007 - 08:05 PM

View Posthazelnut, on Jun 3 2007, 06:58 PM, said:

For the people who use firefox (I'm an opera user myself :) ) here are some screenshots and info of work going on with firefox 3.

http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/01...fox-3-features/
Thanks for the link Hazel.

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 09:00 PM

View Postslowday444, on Jun 3 2007, 03:15 PM, said:

That is just stupid! I have seven extension enabled and five sites open and look at my memory usage at bottom of Task Manager!
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You are complaining about 42 MB of ram usage from Firefox? I have 6 browsers installed and none of them use less than that. In fact they all use significantly more. Firefox launches at 40+ on 3 different machines here. I am curious what other browsers you use that you are comparing to?

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 09:01 PM

View PostTunerz, on Jun 3 2007, 03:33 PM, said:

Use it for a long time and go to websites that are "memory hungry" errrr... or is it CPU hungry? I have seen it go up to 124mb of memory (memory leak perhaps), although I'm too lazy to create screenshots of every detail I make in my computer.

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Firefox memory consumption fresh start

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Opera memory consumption fresh start (don't mind the name, my flimsy friend played with the configuration and says Opera is an ugly name >.< oh well)

What theme is that you are using on the bottom screen shot? I know the top one is Blue Ice.

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 09:17 PM

View PostAnthony A, on Jun 3 2007, 05:00 PM, said:

You are complaining about 42 MB of ram usage from Firefox? I have 6 browsers installed and none of them use less than that. In fact they all use significantly more. Firefox launches at 40+ on 3 different machines here. I am curious what other browsers you use that you are comparing to?
I'm saying that with seven extensions enabled and five websites open I'm only using 42K of mem, which I think is just great. I think Firefox memory leakage is exaggerated!

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 10:18 PM

Just a tip with taskmanager.If you place the mouse pointer on "Mem Usage" and click it will toggle the highest to lowest or vice versa.
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Posted 03 June 2007 - 11:38 PM

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 11:46 PM

View Postslowday444, on Jun 3 2007, 05:17 PM, said:

I'm saying that with seven extensions enabled and five websites open I'm only using 42K of mem, which I think is just great. I think Firefox memory leakage is exaggerated!


OK, I agree :P Sounded like you were complaining.

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 12:41 AM

View PostHumpty, on Jun 3 2007, 06:18 PM, said:

Just a tip with taskmanager.If you place the mouse pointer on "Mem Usage" and click it will toggle the highest to lowest or vice versa.
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MY GOD?! How do you have like nothing running?!?! I want that on my Dell...then again, Norton does have like 5 processes running at once... that could be a start...

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 12:54 AM

View PostGCNbball8, on Jun 3 2007, 08:41 PM, said:

MY GOD?! How do you have like nothing running?!?! I want that on my Dell...then again, Norton does have like 5 processes running at once... that could be a start...

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I have 20 processes on one machine and 21 on another. I went through all my running processes and services. Googled each one and found out what was safe to disable. When I bought the Dell lap top their were over 50 processes running in Task Manager. I have lost 0 functions since I killed off the junk. Absolutely insane the amount of crap they have starting with the machines.

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 01:12 AM

View PostAnthony A, on Jun 3 2007, 07:54 PM, said:

I have 20 processes on one machine and 21 on another. I went through all my running processes and services. Googled each one and found out was safe to disable. When I bought the Dell lap top their were over 50 processes running in Task Manager. I have lost 0 functions since I killed off the junk. Absolutely insane the amount of crap they have starting with the machines.

Maybe I'll try that sometime..

Here's the funny thing.... I like Firefox a lot, but never had a problem with memory, till about 5 minutes ago.

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OMG Bloated!!!

I figured it out that since the web page was so long that it did this. My memory and CPU maxed out!!
This computer is Windows 2000 Pro

Now on my Dell (Windows XP Home) I did something similar when I watched a movie trailer in HD - once it was fully loaded, my page file usage was through the roof.

My question now is.... why in Win 200 does it say Mem usage vs. Page file usage (Win XP) under Task Manager???

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 01:42 AM

Download a program called autoruns.
Open it up and press the logon tab. You can uncheck a bunch of stuff there to cut down on your running processes.(reboot to take effect of course)

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 06:39 AM

Autoruns is very good - I disabled about 50% of all my startup items. XP is running very smooth.

Problem is you have to do it again and again; many updates (Java RTE, QuickTime, Adobe Reader, etc.) all put their crap back into the startup list at every update.

I'd say Autoruns is for advanced users; inexperienced users go better with Startup Inspector.

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 04:48 PM

View Postpwillener, on Jun 4 2007, 07:39 AM, said:

Problem is you have to do it again and again; many updates (Java RTE, QuickTime, Adobe Reader, etc.) all put their crap back into the startup list at every update.
You can get round that with a few of them. For example Java always puts back jusched.exe (think thats right), search for that file and when you find the jusched.exe rename it juschedOLD.exe or similar. After that it won't add itself back to startup, works with RealPlayer (Realsched?) and QuickTime too and probably any others (those are the only ones I've done it with though so can't guarantee it)

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 05:58 PM

For real player and quicktime just get rid of them all together and either download vlc, the klite mega pack, or the real/quicktime alternatives. :D

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 06:09 PM

View PostGCNbball8, on Jun 3 2007, 08:12 PM, said:

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I see the usage go high if downloading something in Firefox, especially if downloading multiple files at the same time. When it's idle or when I'm just browsing though it's typically 40+ MB and that's with 4 extensions and 1 additional theme.
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