Zange0 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 See my 4th response for (confusing) resolution. Running defraggler consumes more space and makes fragmentation worse. I've followed the advice of: http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=35459 (stop VSS expansion) http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=35458 (exclude restore point and hibernation files) as well as deleting restore points to see if it would get me the space back (it didn't). It is getting to a severe and problematic point, and the windows defragmenter is doing nothing to fix is. I'm on Windows 7 x64 running the most recent version of defraggler. Images of the problem: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I have the same problem Reported it a few days ago... Seems it added or corrupted some Sys files See Added Sys Files http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=42450 the files seem to grow bigger when I defrag and it is now 43% fragmented and it is in those files only. I will be watching here to see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I found this post in MS it helped me http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-system/how-to-delete-old-restore-points-to-save-disk/28648a45-ac7a-4f14-95b6-cb91021566f8 It referred me to this to delete unused Restore Points (Mine seems to be making large restore files) http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/5482/make-system-restore-use-less-space-in-windows-7/ Maybe it will help you Norrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zange0 Posted December 18, 2014 Author Share Posted December 18, 2014 Running defraggler consumes more space and makes fragmentation worse. I've followed the advice of: http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=35459 (stop VSS expansion) http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=35458 (exclude restore point and hibernation files) as well as deleting restore points to see if it would get me the space back (it didn't). I found this post in MS it helped me http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-system/how-to-delete-old-restore-points-to-save-disk/28648a45-ac7a-4f14-95b6-cb91021566f8 It referred me to this to delete unused Restore Points (Mine seems to be making large restore files) http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/5482/make-system-restore-use-less-space-in-windows-7/ Maybe it will help you Norrie I've already tried clearing the restore points, it didn't really help, and that wouldn't fix the fragmentation from what I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 It did seem to fix mine, at least for now. But I had to clear all and make a new restore point. I was at 65GB but it dropped to 38GB after I did this. I do think it is something with defraggler because if I used system tool defrag it did not add anything. I just hope they take a look at it and figure out what is causing it. BTW I have used defraggler now for at least 5 years and until now really liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Maybe this will help. I wrote to Piriform and received this answer: "It's likely that the increase of used space is attributed to Windows creation of Volume Shadow Copies during the defragmentation process, so I would recommend that you prevent the creation of these unwanted files since they'll use this disc space. To configure Defraggler to prevent the creation of the Volume Shadow Copies when defragging:1. Open Defraggler2. Click Settings > Options...3. Click on the Advanced tab4. Check "Stop VSS when defragmenting NTFS volume" > click OK. You can find instructions on how to regain the lost disc space here:http://support.piriform.com/entries/21202696-Claiming-back-your-Free-Space-caused-by-VSS If you're having any trouble with this, or if you need anything, please feel free to email me back. Regards Megan" Norrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nergal Posted December 18, 2014 Moderators Share Posted December 18, 2014 Norrie, in the first post Zange says he already tried stopping vss ADVICE FOR USING CCleaner'S REGISTRY INTEGRITY SECTION DON'T JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECKED OFF. Do your Registry Cleaning in small bits (at the very least Check-mark by Check-mark) ALWAYS BACKUP THE ENTRY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BREAK IF YOU DON'T. Support at https://support.ccleaner.com/s/?language=en_US Pro users file a PRIORITY SUPPORT via email support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zange0 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 I got a response from support saying that I should delete my restore points, which still hasn't fixed anything. Does anyone have any suggestions other than 3 things that keep coming up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zange0 Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 So, I don't know what happened, but after restarting my computer earlier this evening, the fragmentation suddenly dropped to 1% and I gained over 300GB of space back. If there is anything anyone can think of for me to provide to help people in the future I will, but right now I'm just happy, if not a little confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted December 31, 2014 Moderators Share Posted December 31, 2014 Zange0 a reboot cures 90% of computer issues. Glad you are all set up again and ready to face another year Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zange0 Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 Zange0 a reboot cures 90% of computer issues. Glad you are all set up again and ready to face another year The odd thing was is that I'd rebooted several times since then, as long as I've got my space back though, I'm content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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