Guest Keatah Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I don't use any av whatsoever. I am very particular about the few sites I visit, and even more particular about what I run on my machine. Keeping an eye on the running task list and how software behaves in general has served me well. Coming from the school of hard knocks and 300-baud modem BBS days I've been privy to watch and see how things developed over time. Thus giving me a 1up on observing suspect behavior and rogue code. The 2 or 3 times I did get zapped was from visiting "nefarious" sites, and wasn't wholly unexpected. It was also quite obvious and I quickly put the fire out. A simple restore from backup saves the day everytime and no harm done. But overall, I recommend MSE as a general good, free, unobtrusive anti-malware program. The folks I've recommended it to have been quite happily using it. In fact, they forget it's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eL_PuSHeR Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Agreed about MSE. Pretty unobstrusive but maybe not the best detection ratios. I find most antivir programs quite "useless". I will explain: the first source of infection nowadays is the user "opening the door to viruses" by installing certain apps (without custom installations) that will install third-party crap that will make your PC unuseable (toolbars for instance). 99% of the time they don't get detected as malware by most antivirus programs. I don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogdanel.s Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I use Avira Antivir Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eL_PuSHeR Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 by the way, mse 4.1 was relesed in august (i think). it has a new web inspector filter. also, avira has been updated one or two days ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winapp2.ini Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 i got an mse update though windows update the other day. winapp2.ini additions thread winapp2.ini github Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted September 29, 2012 Moderators Share Posted September 29, 2012 I also got that update which pushed MSE to v4.1.522.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Fast Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 agreed about mse. pretty unobstrusive but maybe not the best detection ratios. i find most antivir programs quite "useless". i will explain: the first source of infection nowadays is the user "opening the door to viruses" by installing certain apps (without custom installations) that will install third-party crap that will make your pc unuseable (toolbars for instance). 99% of the time they don't get detected as malware by most antivirus programs. i don't know why. 100% agreed. Sweet im toolbars, & rogue programs that are borderline infection, but mayn't be listed as such. Many times, they aren't auto detected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted October 1, 2012 Moderators Share Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) Agreed about MSE. Pretty unobstrusive but maybe not the best detection ratios. I find most antivir programs quite "useless". I will explain: the first source of infection nowadays is the user "opening the door to viruses" by installing certain apps (without custom installations) that will install third-party crap that will make your PC unuseable (toolbars for instance). 99% of the time they don't get detected as malware by most antivirus programs. I don't know why. That's why I unpack setup files, and scan them unpacked and then see what's in there for myself. To do this you'll need 7-Zip which can perfectly unpack NSIS installers, and then for IS installers you'll need Inno Setup Unpacker. NSIS and IS are probably 90% or more of the installers I run into nowadays. Edited October 1, 2012 by Andavari Fixed typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eL_PuSHeR Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Thank you. I had these too but I had Innounp outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Fast Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 That's why I unpack setup files, and scan them unpacked and then see what's in there for myself. To do this you'll need 7-Zip which can perfectly unpack NSIS installers, and then for IS installers you'll need Inno Setup Unpacker. NSIS and IS are probably 90% or more of the installers I run into nowadays. Which will work for programs that only bundle rogue programs with them. But I expect there are some programs that directly have malicious scripts/activities tied directly to their EXE when they operate. I cannot see how it would be too hard for them to attach a rootkit backdoor installer, that silently executes when you are running a game or program. It would certainly complicate things! But for now, unpacking seems to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mta Posted October 14, 2012 Moderators Share Posted October 14, 2012 been using AVG for about 8years now. also been giving Avast a go a few times (on other test rigs in the house) and also find it excellant. had on more than 1 occasion I've installed AVG on someone's PC, ran a scan and had it detect an infection that the previously AV didn't, usually Norton's. used to be a Norton fan but found they got really bloated and needed too much grunt from the Pc to make it run smoothly. but i think they have streamlined their product alot now (they had too) they were losing to many customers and if these votes are any comparison to real life stats, it's reflected here too. Backup now & backup often.It's your digital life - protect it with a backup.Three things are certain; Birth, Death and loss of data. You control the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted October 15, 2012 Moderators Share Posted October 15, 2012 Which will work for programs that only bundle rogue programs with them. But I expect there are some programs that directly have malicious scripts/activities tied directly to their EXE when they operate. I cannot see how it would be too hard for them to attach a rootkit backdoor installer, that silently executes when you are running a game or program. Too true. Some installers will download junk hidden in the background such as toolbar, browser, or worst yet malware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krit86lr Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 MS Security Essentials (Now Windows Defender in Win8) - AntiVirus Malwarebytes Antimalware (+ rKill on some machines) - Malware SpywareBlaster - Spyware Before Security Essentials I used AntiVir for years and I never encountered an infection. Windows Pro Media 8.1 x64 | 8GB Ram | 500G HDD 7200 RPM | All that I know about my graphics is that it's Intel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaleguas49 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The best security a pc should allways have is the own pc owner. I mean, people must know what is safe and what is not. For exemple, when you go on the street, before you cross the road you know you should look both right and left. With pcs it is the same thing. You know that the piriform site is safe and secure, but you have to suspect of sites like porno sites and others like that. That being said, for windows xp and windows 7 i always use microsoft security essencial, it is an excelent antivirus, it is lightweit, does its jobs pretty good and don t guive you any headache at all. For windows 8 i use the built in windows defender, because is the same as security essential. As for spywares i use malwarebytes anti malware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hav0c Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Eset NOD32 (current 7.0.302.26) For about 4 years now. They are fast to help if you find a new infected file, light on resources and it does what it stands for and that is protect your PC. I was never a fan of AntiVir nor Avast since at the collage where I did some studding real while back I have seen first hand how many misses both got. Upload a file/url to this site to see if any of about 52 AVs catch something http://www.virustotal.com/ Every line of code written by man can be undone by man . "A loser in the real world is still a loser in the net!" - .hack//SIGN . Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winapp2.ini Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Call me a daredevil but I no longer run an antivirus or antimalware. winapp2.ini additions thread winapp2.ini github Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corona Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 The word daredevil never entered my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winapp2.ini Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I'd 'like' your post, were it not for the fact I've reached my daily quota of positive votes for the day! winapp2.ini additions thread winapp2.ini github Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasont42 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 use avast on windows 7 with superantispyware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Doe223 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Avast with Hardened mode enabled aggressive, Heuristics set to high, scan priority set to high, automatically fixes infections, site blocking enabled and version 10.2208 with their enhanced new version of DeepScreen and EVO-GEN Password Protected and to think I almost dropped Avast after v 9, fortunately they uped their game on this one! The detection isn't where it was, but it's still one of the better detection rates I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eL_PuSHeR Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Now that I have migrated to Win8.1 and Windows Defender is not so cool as standalone MSE, I have been testing Avira, AVAST and AVG to see the differences among them. Under memory consumption I have found... AVIRA 57,60 MBAVG 2015 75,00 MBAVAST 39,00 MB So, AVAST seems pretty slim in the memory department (I only installed NG as advanced options). The three of them performed equally well but I had a problem with AVAST. It seems there is no way to tell the antivirus of "false positives" and ignore files, or at least, I was not able to find it. If I had to choose among those three, I would choose AVIRA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted December 14, 2014 Moderators Share Posted December 14, 2014 Regarding Windows Defender on Win 8.1 (which I rate quite highly) you might find this post of interest eL_PuSHeR http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/is-windows-defender-with-system-wide-smart-screen-enough.370877/page-3#post-2433854 Just a point of view I thought you might like to read Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted December 14, 2014 Moderators Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) So, AVAST seems pretty slim in the memory department (I only installed NG as advanced options). The three of them performed equally well but I had a problem with AVAST. It seems there is no way to tell the antivirus of "false positives" and ignore files, or at least, I was not able to find it. If I had to choose among those three, I would choose AVIRA. You can input exclusions into Avast, although I can't remember where since I haven't used it for a very long time - try looking in the settings, I think it used to be buried in there, if you can't find it there look in all those resident shields. Any av worth anything will have to have an exclusion ability. I have chosen Avira, I like the fact they have a classic GUI. It scans on my old XP system from about 45 minutes to 52 minutes which is significantly faster than any other free av. Avira is what I went to after going from MSE (took over 6 hours to do a full scan with the last compatible XP version, scan time alone made it rather unusable for me) to Panda Cloud Antivirus (took just over 2 hours which is one hour too long in my book). Edited December 14, 2014 by Andavari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mta Posted December 14, 2014 Moderators Share Posted December 14, 2014 If memory consumption is a considering factor, that's one of the reasons I left AVG IS behind (plus the fact is was up for renewal anyway). I have retired Norton Internet Security, it has 2 process running, using 6MB and 4MB respectively. Having read an article in a PC mag and reading some reviews claiming similar benefits with the 'new' and improved Nortons, I can certainly confirm them. Of course, it's not free which is usually another considering factor, but at $29AUD for 1Pc/1yr, it's priced competitively too. (God, I sound like a Norton salesman) Backup now & backup often.It's your digital life - protect it with a backup.Three things are certain; Birth, Death and loss of data. You control the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted December 14, 2014 Moderators Share Posted December 14, 2014 Andavari how on earth do you cope with the Avira Online Essentials? Most folk I know uninstall it straight away but then get offered it again a few days later. http://techdows.com/2014/01/uninstall-avira-client-installed-avira-online-essentials.html Not what I would want on my machine (the Launcher (aka as Online essentials) Why on earth don't they just allow Avira free AV only as a download . Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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