davey Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 (edited) Isn't the latest version of Java version 6 update 6? Well according to THIS page, I have version 6 update 5 installed. However, when I use JavaRa to check for updates, it tells me I have the latest version installed. Obviously I don't, so why doesn't JavaRa correctly report that and give me an option to upgrade? I am not sure how Java themselves checks. Have you used JavaRa to delete all old versions first?'Old versions of JRE that is. P.S. Are you sure your icon isn't linked to an old version of JavaRa itself? Try clicking on the new JavaRa itself. It has happened to me a member I know. Try things like that first.If still no joy then supply more info about you system,OS, versions of Java on your machine etc. Good luck, davey P.S. What's all this username and password stuff as regards Java.Honestly,I have never seen it before. I must live a "charmed" PC life or the "Piriform fairy" watches out for me or something. Edited July 1, 2008 by davey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay3800 Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 Yeah, I'm using the latest version of JavaRa (its says "1.08" at the top), I've removed old version of JRE, and done all the cleanup functions that JavaRa offers. I currently have Java Version 6 Update 5 installed (the latest version is 6 Update 6). This is on a Windows 2000 machine. When I check for updates, I use the jucheck.exe method, but it still tells me that no update is available, even though I'm using an outdated version. Dell Latitude D600 Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoKenny Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 I always go to the Sun Java site to download the latest release as their update application only checks for major updates and not minor updates: http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp Go to Add/Remove Programs and un-install Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 Update 5. Scroll down to Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 Update 6 then download and install the update. Then runSecunia: Online Software Inspector: http://secunia.com/software_inspector "Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school." - Albert Einstein IE7Pro user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredvries Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 @ TeeJay3800: JavaRa uses the Java Runtime Environment inbuilt update feature to update the latest version but that didn't work when JRE 1.6.0_06 was released. Somehow JRE's update wasn't working right. That's why we were forced to add an alternative download possibility to JavaRa. @ YoKenny: We just wanted to create an application that would automate and simplify the actions you describe. Plus most computer users haven't got a clue that Java doesn't remove older versions or how to manually remove these older versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 @ YoKenny:We just wanted to create an application that would automate and simplify the actions you describe. Plus most computer users haven't got a clue that Java doesn't remove older versions or how to manually remove these older versions. That is right Fred. I am still learning about Java and updates and versions and downloaders and .I know what you mean.This is a tremendous help to all users.For the longest time it was just something else in the Control Panel I didn't understand. Are you saying that right now we need to be using the alternative method in JavaRa? Has Java fixed the problem and will it be in the next release of JAVA.? YoKenny thanks for providing the old fashioned method. Now ,how the heck did I get the latest Version of Java.I must have used the alternative site. And I don't ever remember putting in any user names and passwords at Java.com but I probably never updated it either until JavaRa came out. Thanks for JavaRa.Now I have eliminated all kinds of versions and downloaders and things I still don't know what they were but they were clogging up my software files. davey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredvries Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 @ davey Yes, you should use the alternative download for now. We do not know if Sun, the owner of Java, will have fixed the update problem in the next version of JRE. Sadly, we do not have any direct communications with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoKenny Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 @ YoKenny:We just wanted to create an application that would automate and simplify the actions you describe. Plus most computer users haven't got a clue that Java doesn't remove older versions or how to manually remove these older versions. I would leave it as "most computer users haven't got a clue" Most computer users just want to power up their system and get their email from Hotmail or Yahoo and maybe download Free stuff that their buddies have told them is the next best thing to sliced bread. With the availability of large hard drives who is going to worry about a few megabytes between friends? @ davey YoKenny thanks for providing the old fashioned method. You're welcome. "Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school." - Albert Einstein IE7Pro user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredvries Posted July 12, 2008 Author Share Posted July 12, 2008 [12jul08] JavaRa updated to version 1.09. Changes: [Note] Sun has released Java Runtime Environment 1.6.0_07 [Added] Removal of redundant JRE 1.6.0_06 entries [Added] Removal of lots of extra registry entries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeCee Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 [12jul08] JavaRa updated to version 1.09. Changes: [Note] Sun has released Java Runtime Environment 1.6.0_07 [Added] Removal of redundant JRE 1.6.0_06 entries [Added] Removal of lots of extra registry entries Does that "Remove useless JRE files" mean Java cache files? Path Copy TeraCopy Unlocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredvries Posted July 12, 2008 Author Share Posted July 12, 2008 @ CeeCee No, it doesn't. It removes the error files (.ERR), the install.log files, the jusched.log files, the jupdate.log files and JRE files in the Temp folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeCee Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 @ CeeCeeNo, it doesn't. It removes the error files (.ERR), the install.log files, the jusched.log files, the jupdate.log files and JRE files in the Temp folder. Ok. I ran it + i checked "Open JavaRa logfile". Log file wasn't opened or created. So there weren't any useless files then? Path Copy TeraCopy Unlocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 Ok. I ran it + i checked "Open JavaRa logfile". Log file wasn't opened or created. So there weren't any useless files then? Hi CeeCee, That is the way it worked for me. Sure did remove 17 old Java registry entries though.They went back to the Java stone age. davey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeCee Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 Hi CeeCee,That is the way it worked for me. Sure did remove 17 old Java registry entries though.They went back to the Java stone age. davey Yeah, but that's the "Remove older versions" option. From me it removed old Java Web Start entries. Path Copy TeraCopy Unlocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 Yeah, but that's the "Remove older versions" option. From me it removed old Java Web Start entries. Yeah the other option just said report follows after line and no report. JavaRa 1.08 Removal Log. Report follows after line. ------------------------------------ The JavaRa removal process was started on Thu Jul 10 01:41:11 2008 Found and removed: C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_05 ------------------------------------ Finished reporting. JavaRa 1.09 Removal Log. Report follows after line. ------------------------------------ The JavaRa removal process was started on Sat Jul 12 16:58:06 2008 Found and removed: SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Plug-in\1.6.0_05 Found and removed: SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Runtime Environment\1.6.0_05 Found and removed: SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Web Start\1.0.1 Found and removed: SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Web Start\1.0.1_02 Found and removed: SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Web Start\1.0.1_03 Found and removed: SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Web Start\1.0.1_04 Found and removed: SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Web Start\1.2 Found and removed: SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Web Start\1.2.0_01 Found and removed: SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Web Start\1.6.0_05 Found and removed: SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-0005-ABCDEFFEDCBA} Found and removed: SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-0005-ABCDEFFEDCBB} Found and removed: SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-0005-ABCDEFFEDCBC} Found and removed: SOFTWARE\Classes\JavaPlugin.160_05 Found and removed: SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Code Store Database\Distribution Units\{CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-0005-ABCDEFFEDCBA} Found and removed: SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{3248F0A8-6813-11D6-A77B-00B0D0160050} Found and removed: SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\8A0F842331866D117AB7000B0D610005 Found and removed: SOFTWARE\Classes\Installer\Products\8A0F842331866D117AB7000B0D610005 ------------------------------------ Finished reporting. JavaRa 1.09 Removal Log. Report follows after line. ------------------------------------ The JavaRa removal process was started on Sat Jul 12 17:00:24 2008 ------------------------------------ Finished reporting. JavaRa 1.09 Removal Log. Report follows after line. ------------------------------------ The JavaRa removal process was started on Sat Jul 12 18:14:19 2008 ------------------------------------ Finished reporting. davey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredvries Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 @ CeeCee: See the About section of raproducts.org for the answer to that question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredvries Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 [02aug08] JavaRa updated to version 1.11. Changes: - [Added] Option to remember translation selected - [Added] Dutch Translation. Thanks to Fred de Vries. - [Added] Spanish Translation. Thanks to Gabriel Llamas Llopis. - [Added] Italian Translation. Thanks to Matteo Turconi. - [Added] Loads of new registry keys for JavaRa to detect. - [Added] Better support for Windows Vista filesystem - [Added] Closing of jucheck.exe and jusched.exe when JavaRa is removing older versions of the JRE, in order to prevent locked file conflicts. - [Fixed] Some minor bugs. - [Fixed] "Internal Error 2753. RegUtils" error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted August 2, 2008 Moderators Share Posted August 2, 2008 Just a small issue, but not with JavaRa itself. It's on the SourceForge.net project download page, it doesn't list the package version unless looking at the release notes. Edit: The SourceForge.net download also downloads the old version 1.10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeCee Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 [02aug08] JavaRa updated to version 1.11. Changes: - [Added] Option to remember translation selected - [Added] Dutch Translation. Thanks to Fred de Vries. - [Added] Spanish Translation. Thanks to Gabriel Llamas Llopis. - [Added] Italian Translation. Thanks to Matteo Turconi. - [Added] Loads of new registry keys for JavaRa to detect. - [Added] Better support for Windows Vista filesystem - [Added] Closing of jucheck.exe and jusched.exe when JavaRa is removing older versions of the JRE, in order to prevent locked file conflicts. - [Fixed] Some minor bugs. - [Fixed] "Internal Error 2753. RegUtils" error. Thanks, that found a bunch of new registry entries. Path Copy TeraCopy Unlocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedW Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Thanks Fred,New JavaRa removed an old Java version that had not been removed before. The JavaRa removal process was started on Mon Jun 30 05:19:44 2008 Found and removed: Software\JavaSoft\Java2D\1.6.0_05 davey I'm new to using CCleaner, and looking at some other things here. Also reading the comments concerning JavaRa. I'm learning things trying to stay ahead of the grand-kids. I checked Java files in Add or Remove. I have listings for: Java6 Update 2 111.00MB Java6 Update 3 111.00MB Java6 Update 5 114.00MB Now I have Java updated to Java6 Update 7 (build 1.6.0_07_b06) I have a simple question. Wouldn't it be just as easy to remove updates 2, 3, and 5 in Add or Remove, or better to use JavaRa? Sorry to bring this up, but I'm trying some new things, and using CCleaner for the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted August 3, 2008 Moderators Share Posted August 3, 2008 Wouldn't it be just as easy to remove updates2, 3, and 5 in Add or Remove, or better to use JavaRa? You could uninstall them in the traditional way, however the Sun Java Runtime always leaves junk behind, hence the reason to use JavaRa. Also with JavaRa you can remove all the older versions more quickly with a few mouse clicks all without having to individually uninstall each one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoKenny Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 You could uninstall them in the traditional way, however the Sun Java Runtime always leaves junk behind, hence the reason to use JavaRa. That's why I run Secunia: Online Software Inspector to check that the junk is gone:http://secunia.com/software_inspector "Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school." - Albert Einstein IE7Pro user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeCee Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I have a simple question. Wouldn't it be just as easy to remove updates2, 3, and 5 in Add or Remove, or better to use JavaRa? I would prefer to use 'Add/remove program' first, and then use JavaRa to remove any left over crap. Path Copy TeraCopy Unlocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedW Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I would prefer to use 'Add/remove program' first, and then use JavaRa to remove any left over crap. Thanks folks for the replies. Around midnight here, and I couldn't sleep. so I spent some time and down-loaded JavaRa 1.11. First I checked Add/Remove to see what was there. Then installed JavaRa, and checked things again. ALL Java updates except the current "Java6 Update 7" were removed like supposed to be. Checked other programs, and since all working okay, then I ran "Disc Cleanup", "Disc Defragmenter", "CCleanup", then went to bed. Took around an hour to do all of this, but things are easier for me around that time. Thanks for the program, and the suggestions. It's nice to have a place to ask and get straight answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredvries Posted August 4, 2008 Author Share Posted August 4, 2008 With the introduction of version 1.11 JavaRa a language module is now included. At this moment JavaRa is available in English, Dutch (Nederlands), Spanish (Espa?ol) and Italian (Italiano). We have offers to translate the program into Polish, Sri Lankan and French. If you are interested in adding your language to this already immensely popular program and want to be an official translator, please contact the team on the Lunarsoft forums to help translate JavaRa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredvries Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 [14dec08] RaProducts' JavaRa updated to version 1.12 beta Changes: - [Added] JavaRa registry definitions file. - [Added] Program now asks Windows to delete locked folders upon reboot. - [Changed] Minor GUI changes. - [Changed] Method of finding and deleting old JRE folders. Dramatic code reduction. - [Fixed] Registry key bug. - [Fixed] MessageBox continually showing regardless of silent mode selection. - [Added] French Translation. Thanks to Pierre Lacaze. - [Added] Swedish Translation. Thanks to Eldmannen. - [Added] Finnish Translation. Thanks to Tero H. - [Fixed] Minor bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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