ROCKNROLL Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 A user posted this over at GitHub: https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/issues/42 What does everyone think? Some of them look a little too risky maybe? I am a maintainer for Winapp2. I also have a open-source group on Steam. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/opencommunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDPower Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 A user posted this over at GitHub: https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/issues/42 What does everyone think? Some of them look a little too risky maybe? The ones that delete old Windows installations, the $patchcache and the winsxs backup folder are definite no no's IMO (I do occasionally wipe the latter, but seen others have issues caused by it). In all my years of computing I've never seen a convincing/safe reason to delete the $patchcache, other than a last resort if running out of disk space. And the old installations files, seems common sense to not delete them, at least not as a matter of course in a cleaning program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nergal Posted September 11, 2016 Moderators Share Posted September 11, 2016 A user posted this over at GitHub: https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/issues/42 What does everyone think? Some of them look a little too risky maybe? The ones that delete old Windows installations, the $patchcache and the winsxs backup folder are definite no no's IMO (I do occasionally wipe the latter, but seen others have issues caused by it). In all my years of computing I've never seen a convincing/safe reason to delete the $patchcache, other than a last resort if running out of disk space. And the old installations files, seems common sense to not delete them, at least not as a matter of course in a cleaning program. I'm with you on this one ADVICE FOR USING CCleaner'S REGISTRY INTEGRITY SECTION DON'T JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECKED OFF. Do your Registry Cleaning in small bits (at the very least Check-mark by Check-mark) ALWAYS BACKUP THE ENTRY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BREAK IF YOU DON'T. Support at https://support.ccleaner.com/s/?language=en_US Pro users file a PRIORITY SUPPORT via email support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKNROLL Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 What about the Windows System Volume Tracking.log*? I think it's safe, but is there anyway a wildcard could be used instead of making all those FileKeys? I am a maintainer for Winapp2. I also have a open-source group on Steam. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/opencommunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nergal Posted September 12, 2016 Moderators Share Posted September 12, 2016 What about the Windows System Volume Tracking.log*? I think it's safe, but is there anyway a wildcard could be used instead of making all those FileKeys? I think that log has to do with restore points, but am unsure. Don't think there's a wildcard that could do it ADVICE FOR USING CCleaner'S REGISTRY INTEGRITY SECTION DON'T JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECKED OFF. Do your Registry Cleaning in small bits (at the very least Check-mark by Check-mark) ALWAYS BACKUP THE ENTRY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BREAK IF YOU DON'T. Support at https://support.ccleaner.com/s/?language=en_US Pro users file a PRIORITY SUPPORT via email support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siliconman01 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I suspect the System Volume Information is inaccessible on most user systems unless the user intentionally takes ownership of the folder (which is not frequently done). Windows 10 x64 Pro on ASUS Maximus VIII Extreme motherboard, i7-6700k CPU,H220 X2 Liquid Cooler, 64 gbyte RipJaws DDR4 3200 RAM, Samsung 970 Pro NVMe M.2 500 gbyte SSD + Samsung 850 Pro 512 gbyte SSD, EVGA RTX 3060 Titan graphics card (Home Built System); Windows 11x64 Pro on 512 gigabyte Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 Laptop/tablet and Dell XPS 8940 PC. ASUS RT-AC88U router, 14 tbyte WD My Cloud PR2100 NAS Server, 200 Mbps cable Internet, MS Edge Chromium, MS Office 2021 (Local), Casper 11, DisplayFusion (3 Flat Panel Displays per system): Latest Bitdefender Internet Security, Quicken, Weather Watcher Live, ThumbsPlus 10, Sticky Password 8, WD Smartware, CyberLink PowerDVD23, MSI AfterBurner, Rainmeter, 8GadgetPack, and many more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted September 13, 2016 Moderators Share Posted September 13, 2016 I suspect the System Volume Information is inaccessible on most user systems... Even outside of Windows using various boot CDs it's inaccessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKNROLL Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Updated: https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/commit/5fd04a149f1e764d9ccf72677095515ccfe0aef5 I am a maintainer for Winapp2. I also have a open-source group on Steam. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/opencommunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKNROLL Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 The ones that delete old Windows installations, the $patchcache and the winsxs backup folder are definite no no's IMO (I do occasionally wipe the latter, but seen others have issues caused by it). In all my years of computing I've never seen a convincing/safe reason to delete the $patchcache, other than a last resort if running out of disk space. And the old installations files, seems common sense to not delete them, at least not as a matter of course in a cleaning program. By the way, if anyone wanted to clean the windows.old files, you can do this in Windows built in cleaner. Just select your drive, click properties, click disk cleanup, click clean up system files, then check Windows Old I believe it's called. I am a maintainer for Winapp2. I also have a open-source group on Steam. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/opencommunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdbane Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 @dvdbane: Temp Files* and SyncBackFree* are from the removed entries section (just saying cause it took me awhile to find these, lol), but thanks I corrected them, too. https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/commit/efcfedc542d1b19e77f195efe4596588978ce43f the keyword here "non-ccleaner winapp2.ini" you need to be careful with Ghost's entries...he already posted the same entries here over and over again now, he do it there sorry Ghost, too risky but i like this one [useless File Extension 2.2*] https://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=32310&page=257&do=findComment&comment=266881 did you test his entries before you update in winapp2.ini? take [installer*] as an example from https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/commit/5fd04a149f1e764d9ccf72677095515ccfe0aef5 he remove the asterisk * from the filekey and from my test here with my computer, cc couldn't detect the file and the reason why the original entry for [installer*] got asterisk like this Google\Chrome*\ because it is needed to support Chrome Sxs if you don't understand what i mean, read here https://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=32310&page=259&do=findComment&comment=267339 FileKey4=%ProgramFiles%\Google\Chrome\Application\\Installer|.7z|RECURSE you need to revert the entries back to before the update and please double check before update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKNROLL Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 the keyword here "non-ccleaner winapp2.ini" you need to be careful with Ghost's entries...he already posted the same entries here over and over again now, he do it there sorry Ghost, too risky but i like this one [useless File Extension 2.2*] https://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=32310&page=257&do=findComment&comment=266881 did you test his entries before you update in winapp2.ini? take [installer*] as an example from https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/commit/5fd04a149f1e764d9ccf72677095515ccfe0aef5 he remove the asterisk * from the filekey and from my test here with my computer, cc couldn't detect the file and the reason why the original entry for [installer*] got asterisk like this Google\Chrome*\ because it is needed to support Chrome Sxs if you don't understand what i mean, read here https://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=32310&page=259&do=findComment&comment=267339 FileKey4=%ProgramFiles%\Google\Chrome\Application\\Installer|.7z|RECURSE you need to revert the entries back to before the update and please double check before update His previous name on GitHub was winapp2, he deleted his account so people wouldn't think he was winapp2 owner. I felt like he was a user here who got banned (tho I was thinking of a different user who got banned). Anyways, there is no revert button, so can you tell me which and where needs to be fixed? Also, you can't rely on just me know to know everything works. I posted the log here 2 days ago to make sure everyone was OK and I didn't include the ones that everyone disagreed with. I am a maintainer for Winapp2. I also have a open-source group on Steam. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/opencommunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdbane Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 i know there is no Revert button use the changelog and replace the + entries with - entries [Argus Monitor*] LangSecRef=3024 Detect=HKCU\Software\Argotronic\Argus Monitor Default=False FileKey1=%Documents%\|ArgusMonitor_EventLog.txt;ArgusMonitor_CSVLog.csv FileKey2=%LocalAppData%\VirtualStore\Program Files*|ArgusMonitor_EventLog.txt;ArgusMonitor_CSVLog.csv FileKey3=%ProgramFiles%\|ArgusMonitor_EventLog.txt;ArgusMonitor_CSVLog.csv - siliconman01 fix #5747 [Foxit Reader 8.0*] LangSecRef=3021 Detect=HKCU\Software\Foxit Software\Foxit Reader 8.0 Default=False RegKey1=HKCU\Software\Foxit Software\Foxit Reader 8.0\Preferences\History\LastOpen RegKey2=HKCU\Software\Foxit Software\Foxit Reader 8.0\Preferences\History\LastSession RegKey3=HKCU\Software\Foxit Software\Foxit Reader 8.0\Preferences\Others|csInitialOpenDir RegKey4=HKCU\Software\Foxit Software\Foxit Reader 8.0\MRU\File MRU RegKey5=HKCU\Software\Foxit Software\Foxit Reader 8.0\MRU\Place MRU FileKey1=%LocalAppData%\Foxit Reader\|*_old.DMP FileKey2=%AppData%\Foxit Software\Foxit Reader\Foxit Cloud\DownloadCache|*.cache FileKey3=%AppData%\Foxit Software\Foxit Reader\Foxit Cloud\FileIDCache|*.fcd FileKey4=%AppData%\Foxit Software\Foxit Reader\Foxit Cloud|foxitcloud.log FileKey5=%CommonAppData%\Foxit Software|*.log|RECURSE - my entry #5736 [Installer*] LangSecRef=3029 SpecialDetect=DET_CHROME Default=False Warning=Running this may remove Chrome's ability to automatically update to future versions on some computers. FileKey1=%LocalAppData%\Google\Chrome*\Application\*\Installer|*.7z|RECURSE FileKey2=%LocalAppData%\Google\Update\*\*\Installer|*.7z|RECURSE FileKey3=%ProgramFiles%\|GUT*tmp FileKey4=%ProgramFiles%\Google\Chrome*\Application\*\Installer|*.7z|RECURSE FileKey5=%ProgramFiles%\Google\Update\*\*\Installer|*.7z|RECURSE - siliconman01 fix #5747 [InstallShield*] LangSecRef=3024 Detect=HKCU\Software\InstallShield Default=False FileKey1=%ProgramFiles%\|_ISTMP1.DIR FileKey2=%SystemDrive%\|_ISTMP*.DIR - siliconman01 fix #5747 btw, you should really double check before you update to prevent something like this happened again fix missing trailing backlash https://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=32310&page=288&do=findComment&comment=276329 update on Ghost entries that undo the fix https://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=32310&page=288&do=findComment&comment=276386 i know we need to help you to maintain this project but if this problem happened again, we might missed some of it no pressure, just a reminder @all do we really need this entry?cc Memory Dumps already support both locationor change fk1 to FileKey1=%WinDir%\LiveKernelReports|*.dmp|RECURSE ??? incase if the entry stay inside winapp2.ini or transfer to non-ccleaner winapp2.ini, i've fix the entry [Live Kernel Watchdog*]LangSecRef=3025Detect=HKCU\SOFTWARE\MicrosoftDefault=FalseFileKey1=%WinDir%\LiveKernelReports\WATCHDOG|*.dmpFileKey2=%WinDir%\LiveKernelReports|*.dmp|RECURSE- fix fk2 based on Ghost's update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKNROLL Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Updated and reverted changes: https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/commit/8acb847e7067b3c768822bd4c53001272bbbefec Sorry about that everyone. I am a maintainer for Winapp2. I also have a open-source group on Steam. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/opencommunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGalloway Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 From winapp2.com's download page: Winapp2.ini A set of over 2500 extensions for CCleaner, System Ninja, BleachBit, and Avira System Speedup. Current version: 5.19.160702 Is this site not getting updated any more with the move to GitHub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKNROLL Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 From winapp2.com's download page: Winapp2.ini A set of over 2500 extensions for CCleaner, System Ninja, BleachBit, and Avira System Speedup. Current version: 5.19.160702 Is this site not getting updated any more with the move to GitHub? I don't know what Robert is planning on doing to his website. I don't have control over it, so I can't do anything on my end. To get the most up-to-date copy, you should grab them off GitHub. I am a maintainer for Winapp2. I also have a open-source group on Steam. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/opencommunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APMichael Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 You can remove following entry because it's included in CCleaner v5.22 now: [Live Kernel Watchdog*] The subfolder WATCHDOG (FileKey2) is covered by RECURSE of CCleaners entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProPaan Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 New: [AIMP Classic*] LangSecRef=3023 DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\AIMP Classic\cAIMP.exe Default=False FileKey1=%ProgramFiles%\AIMP Classic\Data|*.bak|RECURSE Modified: [AIMP 2*] LangSecRef=3023 DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\AIMP2\AIMP2.exe Default=False FileKey1=%AppData%\AIMP|*.bak FileKey2=%LocalAppData%\VirtualStore\Program Files*\AIMP2\Data|*.bak|RECURSE FileKey3=%ProgramFiles%\AIMP2\Data|*.bak|RECURSE Edit FileKey2, Filekey3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKNROLL Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Updated: https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/commit/c3a2ebbae3ce2d0063a82220678eb7047df6fb27 I am a maintainer for Winapp2. I also have a open-source group on Steam. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/opencommunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGalloway Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 The files which CCDump creates are also exported with C:> CCleaner /Export <folder to store files in> %ProgramFiles\CCleaner.exe /Export "%UserProfile%\Documents\CCleaner\" No need for CCDump.exe .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APMichael Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Updated: https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/commit/c3a2ebbae3ce2d0063a82220678eb7047df6fb27 Thanks for the fast updates! Some small fixes: - Winapp2.ini: "# of entries" should stay 2,569 (one new entry but also one removed). - Non-CCleaner / Removed entries: [Memory Dumps] has no asterisk (*) and "# of removed entries" should be 51. - Non-CCleaner / Winapp2.ini: [Memory Dumps] has no asterisk (*) and "# of entries:" should be 2,569 + 51. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKNROLL Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Thanks for the fast updates! Some small fixes: - Winapp2.ini: "# of entries" should stay 2,569 (one new entry but also one removed). - Non-CCleaner / Removed entries: [Memory Dumps] has no asterisk (*) and "# of removed entries" should be 51. - Non-CCleaner / Winapp2.ini: [Memory Dumps] has no asterisk (*) and "# of entries:" should be 2,569 + 51. Corrected them: https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/commit/5c39e23c891371091d2b2340808fef2264b2e310 https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/commit/891f0075c97777e8deea9f1465fe31e448bfbe11 https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/commit/6b628404bce7569c3bbc0fbc5abe9f50f3ac4c4b Ill try harder not to make these mistakes in the future. I am a maintainer for Winapp2. I also have a open-source group on Steam. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/opencommunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdbane Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 [Revo Uninstaller Backups*]LangSecRef=3024DetectFile=%LocalAppData%\VS Revo groupDefault=FalseFileKey1=%LocalAppData%\VirtualStore\Program Files*\VS Revo Group\Revo Uninstaller Pro|*.bakFileKey2=%LocalAppData%\VS Revo Group\Revo Uninstaller Free\BackupsData|*.*|RECURSEFileKey3=%LocalAppData%\VS Revo Group\Revo Uninstaller Pro\BackupsData|*.*|RECURSEFileKey4=%ProgramFiles%\VS Revo Group\Revo Uninstaller Pro|*.bak- remove rupilogs.rupldb from fk1 and fk4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDPower Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 [Revo Uninstaller Backups*]- remove rupilogs.rupldb from fk1 and fk4 Reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKNROLL Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Updated with my own addition: https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/commit/4f976b760291e20ef718d836db54a5e483d90c0a I am a maintainer for Winapp2. I also have a open-source group on Steam. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/opencommunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdbane Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Reason? seem like i misunderstood rupilogs.rupldb's function i thought they stored cleaning rule inside that db, it's just list of available removal log but rupilogs.rupldb should be remove from that entry and place in [Revo Uninstaller Pro*] [Revo Uninstaller Pro*] LangSecRef=3024 Detect=HKCU\Software\VS Revo Group\Revo Uninstaller Pro Warning=You need to manually download rupilogs.rupldb via Log Database in Option if you disable "Check for update on startup" Default=False FileKey1=%AppData%\ruplp\log|*.log FileKey2=%ProgramFiles%\VS Revo Group\Revo Uninstaller Pro|rupilogs.rupldb FileKey3=%LocalAppData%\VS Revo Group\Revo Uninstaller Pro|RUPLogsData.ini FileKey4=%LocalAppData%\VS Revo Group\Revo Uninstaller Pro\Logs\*|*.*|REMOVESELF RegKey1=HKCU\Software\VS Revo Group\Revo Uninstaller Pro\Uninstaller\Traced\LogsUSs - fk2 for log downloaded - fk3 for list of log downloaded, doesn't change when fk2 cleaned - regkey same as fk3 - change detect to HKCU\Software\VS Revo Group - add warning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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