TheWebAtom Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Just curious; in what way "bad", and compared to what other languages? I'm more of a fan of "modern" languages without the superfluous syntax crud like braces and parenthesis. While I can tolerate them (I work with C# quite often), I generally find Java to be painful due to its many inconsistencies. Naming conventions are illogical, the JRE gives absolutely useless stack trace information and the primitive types lack any useful standard methods. Despite having not one, not two but FOUR different "String" classes in the standard library, none of them have anything as even slightly useful. Case and point; two identical programs. One Python, one Java Python variable1 = 5 if variable1 > 4: print("Variable is greater than four!"); Java public static void main(String[] args) { int variable1 = 5; if (variable1 > 4) { System.out.println("Variable is greater than four!"); } } I'm Shane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login123 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 ....Lets face it, we happily use the stuff blissfully unware until it bites us on the bum Yep, you bet'cha, Umm hmm, yes. http://forum.pirifor...ndpost&p=221377 line 2. The CCleaner SLIM version is always released a bit after any new version; when it is it will be HERE :-) Pssssst: ... It isn't really a cloud. Its a bunch of big, giant servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwillener Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Ah, Python: there's a powerful language! I have done lots of stuff with JavaScript lately (and I admit I like JS), but then I found a way to call Python - what a difference... But I'm afraid we are wandering seriously off-topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winapp2.ini Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I'm more of a fan of "modern" languages without the superfluous syntax crud like braces and parenthesis. While I can tolerate them (I work with C# quite often), I generally find Java to be painful due to its many inconsistencies. Naming conventions are illogical, the JRE gives absolutely useless stack trace information and the primitive types lack any useful standard methods. Despite having not one, not two but FOUR different "String" classes in the standard library, none of them have anything as even slightly useful. Case and point; two identical programs. One Python, one Java Python variable1 = 5 if variable1 > 4: print("Variable is greater than four!"); Java public static void main(String[] args) { int variable1 = 5; if (variable1 > 4) { System.out.println("Variable is greater than four!"); } } Your ideas are compelling, but I still hate Python3! winapp2.ini additions thread winapp2.ini github Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwillener Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Python 2.7 is still available. What is so bad about Python 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winapp2.ini Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 they made us reinvent the wheel using python3 (ie. we weren't allowed to use any libraries) when i was learning it, it was annoying. winapp2.ini additions thread winapp2.ini github Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corona Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 i remember python was a major feature in windows me. 'nuff said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nergal Posted September 30, 2012 Moderators Share Posted September 30, 2012 they made us reinvent the wheel using python3 (ie. we weren't allowed to use any libraries) when i was learning it, it was annoying. http://arstechnica.c...eld-expression/ ADVICE FOR USING CCleaner'S REGISTRY INTEGRITY SECTION DON'T JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECKED OFF. Do your Registry Cleaning in small bits (at the very least Check-mark by Check-mark) ALWAYS BACKUP THE ENTRY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BREAK IF YOU DON'T. Support at https://support.ccleaner.com/s/?language=en_US Pro users file a PRIORITY SUPPORT via email support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWebAtom Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 nergal; that article made me laugh: the new version of python adds "generator delegation to subgenerators or arbitrary subiterators" the new version of java adds "fixes for 52 security vulnerabilities." I'm Shane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mta Posted October 1, 2012 Moderators Share Posted October 1, 2012 being new to the forum and interested in this threads suggestion of disabling Java and the reasons, pro & con, of doing so, I'm just wondering what Python has to do with it, or are we just off topic slightly. Backup now & backup often.It's your digital life - protect it with a backup.Three things are certain; Birth, Death and loss of data. You control the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nergal Posted October 1, 2012 Moderators Share Posted October 1, 2012 we're off topic majorly, the only tangential similarities are that they both are scripting languages. ADVICE FOR USING CCleaner'S REGISTRY INTEGRITY SECTION DON'T JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECKED OFF. Do your Registry Cleaning in small bits (at the very least Check-mark by Check-mark) ALWAYS BACKUP THE ENTRY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BREAK IF YOU DON'T. Support at https://support.ccleaner.com/s/?language=en_US Pro users file a PRIORITY SUPPORT via email support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwillener Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 we're off topic majorly, the only tangential similarities are that they both are scripting languages. Java, in contrast to JavaScript, is not a scripting language. But yes, we are off-topic, led by me. I apologize! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWebAtom Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 we are off-topic, led by me. I apologize! Actually; I think it was more my fault. Let's just hop back on topic and wrap this up. Java (like any software on a PC) does contain security issues. If you don't use any applications that require Java to be installed; kill it with fire. The same goes for Flash, Silverlight, Adobe Reader and anything else permitted to directly interface with the web. I'm Shane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barky Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (Oracle) Java disabled in browser for a few weeks now & I notice no difference in any websites I use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mta Posted October 7, 2012 Moderators Share Posted October 7, 2012 (Oracle) Java disabled in browser for a few weeks now & I notice no difference in any websites I use I second that. Since discovering this thread, i've disabled Java in Firefox to confirm some suggestions, and so far have seen no negative impact. Still have Java installed on the PC though. Backup now & backup often.It's your digital life - protect it with a backup.Three things are certain; Birth, Death and loss of data. You control the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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